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Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Re: Khan Academy launches Khan World School online high school

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Post by DeWilde »

frontman1988 wrote: post #18
azinman2 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because there’s more to high school than just classes. It’s important to learn how to deal with people as well. A purely virtual high school experience sounds extremely lonely and thin for the soul.

Social learning can happen outside school in sports or other hobby related activities. High school is actually quite a weird place to learn social skills.

Yes, but the 5-6 hours you spend within a school alongside 3-4 hours you can spend on sports and hobbies probably out-competes just sports and hobbies.

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Post by jake_morrison »

Imagine a physics class with the budget of a Mythbusters episode. The result is pedagogically sound content, the best presenters, and a budget for graphics and special effects. With enough students, the cost per class is very low, less than what we pay for school now.

Students will still need access to people to help when they have questions. And there is a need for some proctoring of exams/certifications.

I expect that the top universities will create content, e.g. Harvard, MIT, Stanford. Then they will partner with local universities and community colleges. Or people can just hire tutors if they need them.

This will wipe out a lot of lower-tier schools.

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Post by profunctor »

wanderingmind wrote: post #22
zozbot234 wrote: post #17

This is just another paid MOOC, and it seems very expensive for students from outside AZ/the U.S.? I find it kinda disappointing that the Khan folks are getting involved in this kind of thing, as schools might now have reason to start distrusting their previously-successful model of just offering content and support to students and educators in a fair and non-discriminatory way.

Given the war on math happening in public school systems in multiple states, this is a fantastic antidote for anyone who can afford it.

War on math?

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Post by Keyframe »

profunctor wrote: post #33
wanderingmind wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the war on math happening in public school systems in multiple states, this is a fantastic antidote for anyone who can afford it.

War on math?

https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/07/stanford-and-cal-profes...

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Post by umangrathi »

I am looking forward to the day, when quality formal education is available online to all which you may complete at your own pace instead of going with a strict semester and class system. Also, along with offline schools for supporting social learning and helping classes which require offline components like labs, in person support classes, interest based study groups etc.

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Post by dragonwriter »

vincentmarle wrote: post #2

The concept of an online high school may sound terrible, but sooner or later it’s bound to happen: quality education will keep consolidating until there’s one super school left. Outlier is doing the same thing but on the college level: why deal with a mediocre local math teacher if you can get taught by the best?

> why deal with a mediocre local math teacher if you can get taught by the best?

Because…you actually can’t. Static media (like books and non-interactive lectures) scales easily, but that’s not teaching (even if, especially in large lower-division courses, that’s what university faculty essentially does.)

Human interactivity, which is what teaching fundamentally is, doesn’t scale, which is why those large lecture classes typically also have smaller TA-led “discussion sections” or sonething similar. And, in many cases, as well as not scaling, it works a lot better in person than remotely.

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Post by shreyshnaccount »

umangrathi wrote: post #35

I am looking forward to the day, when quality formal education is available online to all which you may complete at your own pace instead of going with a strict semester and class system. Also, along with offline schools for supporting social learning and helping classes which require offline components like labs, in person support classes, interest based study groups etc.

That, and the education structure guided by actual research instead of politics, is the holy grail

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Post by searchableguy »

barry-cotter wrote: post #14
Arnavion wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They may accept students from around the world, but whether it counts as a high school for the purpose of continuing on to higher education is country-specific, which (I assume) is why 2Gkashmiri asked what they did. Also, based on the About Us page, the requirements for submitting an application are quite US-centric ("Student must be proficient in Algebra 1", etc). I did not try to fill out an actual application to…

> Tuition for all students does include the opportunity to take two university courses per semester and earn college credit. Even the most irritatingly bureaucracy obsessed box ticking country, i.e. Germany, would accept a transcript with two college courses per semester as a university preparatory high school.

Many countries do not accept online education as a valid form of education.

India doesn't unless the institution is approved by the UGC or act of Parliament.

Same story in China.

American credits are also treated very differently outside.

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Post by dalbasal »

Online learning resources are amazing. Compared to pre-internet, the depth, quality and accessibility is amazing. It really does open an opportunity route for a lot of people.

However...

Institutional learning, whether it's K-12, colleges, techs or whatnot have barely changed. The same fundamental dynamics exist, whether it's tertiary sorting and prestige or primary teaching methods. Education still serves and fails the same groups of people as it did before, in much the same way.

Education is an enormous "industry." It's in the same realm as defense, energy or transport. Possibly even more important.

I really hope to see online resources develop in such a way that schools can be built around them. A formula that a middle school principal anywhere, no matter how rural and remote, can implement. Why can't we have the best of both worlds?

The classroom model didn't work well for me as a student. I don't think remote-only would have worked either.

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Post by maccard »

Kosirich wrote: post #21

In my mind a "better high school of tomorrow" would be the one that utilizes the best available classes and material available online in a physical class room environment, except for classes that are unique to the national curriculum. So a school would have people employed in some new role of mentor/teacher with whom you take the classes online with help and guidance. What would be the stoppers from implementation of…

> except for classes that are unique to the national curriculum

Curious where you draw the line on this one? At high school age _most_ subjects are unique to the local area. literature classes would likely focus on more local authors; when I studied english lit in ireland 15 years ago our focus was on Irish authors. You would expect UK based students to study English/scottish/welsh authors, and americans to study american authors. My middle school and equivalent geography classes were predominantly talking about globally applicable topics but with more local examples.

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