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Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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post #19

> We have very few teeth from this period in Africa. We don’t know if this is unusual or not, Alternative view, cavities were common and the teeth were removed / fell out.

The question should be "where are the missing teeth?, and why?

Tooth Fairy has them, obviously.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

#32

Like to add to this conversation that scientists have found ways to prevent cavities but these are not made available to us. For example, genetically modified streptococcus.

Cool. Got a link on that?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=genetically+modified+streptococcus...

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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My grandmother chewed betel leaves with a small amount of tobacco, betel nuts, lime (calcium hydroxide aka chuna/chun), multiple times a day all her life. Her other diet consisted of tea just as many times per day, and for actual food a diet of rice, fish, and vegetables. For the majority of her life I don't think she actually had access to fluoridated toothpaste and probably used neem twigs or even charcoal at times to brush her teeth. Her teeth were gross, tinted red and brown. She lived to 93 and I never heard of her ever getting cavities or fillings or going to a dentist. In the place where she lived the only reason you go to a "dentist" is to have teeth removed.

Basically what I'm saying is that diet and genetics are a huge factor.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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post #33

My grandmother chewed betel leaves with a small amount of tobacco, betel nuts, lime (calcium hydroxide aka chuna/chun), multiple times a day all her life. Her other diet consisted of tea just as many times per day, and for actual food a diet of rice, fish, and vegetables. For the majority of her life I don't think she actually had access to fluoridated toothpaste and probably used neem twigs or even charcoal at times…

So, she still had all her teeth at 93?

It is obvious that if she didn't visit dentists regularly, no one detected cavities, and teeth are just need to be pulled because of abscess from bacteria at the end.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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post #33

My grandmother chewed betel leaves with a small amount of tobacco, betel nuts, lime (calcium hydroxide aka chuna/chun), multiple times a day all her life. Her other diet consisted of tea just as many times per day, and for actual food a diet of rice, fish, and vegetables. For the majority of her life I don't think she actually had access to fluoridated toothpaste and probably used neem twigs or even charcoal at times…

So, she still had all her teeth at 93? It is obvious that if she didn't visit dentists regularly, no one detected cavities, and teeth are just need to be pulled because of abscess from bacteria at the end.

yes she had all her teeth when she died

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

#36

That’s easy. Sugar.

Anecdotally, I don't consume a whole lot of refined sugar but any time I do, I can feel the plaque building up almost immediately. But at least in terms of apples and grapes this isn't the case, nor does it appear to be so with complex carbs including bread and potatoes. Additionally I've noticed most candies and soda tend to leave residual taste in my mouth for hours. So I'm partial to pointing the finger specifically to refined sugar.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, she still had all her teeth at 93? It is obvious that if she didn't visit dentists regularly, no one detected cavities, and teeth are just need to be pulled because of abscess from bacteria at the end.

yes she had all her teeth when she died

Oh, this is super interesting.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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Like to add to this conversation that scientists have found ways to prevent cavities but these are not made available to us. For example, genetically modified streptococcus.

Novamin is not available for sale in the US (though you can get it off ebay) and supposedly it is a toothpaste additive which can directly deposit onto teeth.

Re: Why didn't our ancient ancestors get cavities?

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post #37

Although this wouldn't apply to ancient humans, I have heard the hypothesis that many people in olden times didn't have as many problems with cavities because many people drank well water. And well water has naturally occurring fluoride.

According to this, naturally occuring fluoride in well water is around 0.05ppm and tap water that has been treated can have 0.7 or more. Quite a big difference. Probably enough to be worth looking into.

https://fluoridealert.org/content/fresh_foods/

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