Who was asking for Woke Clippy? Is Google just bored and completely out of ideas?
They seem increasingly disconnected with what their users actually want.
Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#32Well, such things are always driven by demand. And unfortunately, there is a strong demand in our society for policing words, renaming formulas and issuing apologies all while: * Property ownership is becoming out of question for an increasing fraction of Americans * Any kid of retirement (as in not having to work and enjoying life off your savings) has become a pipe dream * Having a single-income family with one par…
May I ask what the items in your enumerated list have to do with “policing words?”
The items on the list are the problems relevant to most Americans. Except, the human brain has a limited capacity for "currently tracked" problems and tends to pick them proportionally to the amount of attention paid to them.
So the media is abusing it by spamming people's attention with disproportionately exaggerated problems that don't cost the elites anything to solve, so that people won't have any time left solving the problems that would look bad on the corporate bottom line.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#33In the article they use the example of "Motherboard" and "Landlord" and seem to suggest that these are areas where the Google AI is making mistakes or being overly strict. As a Google employee expressing my own opinion and observations of company culture, I can say that these are 100% not mistakes. Many Google employees are just so out of touch with the real world that they believe it is the duty of Google Docs to ch…
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#34In the article they use the example of "Motherboard" and "Landlord" and seem to suggest that these are areas where the Google AI is making mistakes or being overly strict. As a Google employee expressing my own opinion and observations of company culture, I can say that these are 100% not mistakes. Many Google employees are just so out of touch with the real world that they believe it is the duty of Google Docs to ch…
As someone who also works at Google, I agree that there is a vocal minority who want Google to be a promoter of progressive values, but: I think you nay be exaggerating things here. I've never even heard of any controversy over the word "motherboard". I just did some internal searches. It seems to be a well-used word, both in code and in documentation. (I did a code search for both "motherboard" and "mainboard" and t…
It's in the banned words list, I can share a link internally if you want.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#35In the article they use the example of "Motherboard" and "Landlord" and seem to suggest that these are areas where the Google AI is making mistakes or being overly strict. As a Google employee expressing my own opinion and observations of company culture, I can say that these are 100% not mistakes. Many Google employees are just so out of touch with the real world that they believe it is the duty of Google Docs to ch…
> you're also not allowed to say it privately in chats or emails In this context, what does it mean? For the other stuff, it is easily envisioned that it means official documents need to be scanned for prohibited terms. Ultimately, the term "motherboard" has to at least appear in an official document of banned words. In private chats, do they rely on the other party to turn you in? Is it automatically detected? Are y…
It's a code of conduct violation and the other employee can ask you not to use the word. If you continue using it that's an even worse violation.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#36I have been thinking about this for a while, and came to the conclusion that the main weakness of progressivism is its arrogance. A progressive simply thinks that she is more educated, virtuous or simply better than others. This manifests subtly, from "helping poor immigrants", to not so subtle implementations, like knowing better what Google queries you actually meant to type, to censoring "fake news", because people do not have the faculty to decide for themselves, to downright auto-correction of people's speech. A progressive copes with this implied superiority by casting it as her goodness.
One of the best films on this subject is Dogville by Lars von Trier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogville , with Grace as its main character.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#37MS: "We now concede that Clippy was the most annoying, patronizing and flawed UX feature ever created." Google: "Hold my beer..."
Some of these words may not be inclusive to all readers.
Try using:
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Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
#38I've been privy to people trying to ban words like "whitelabel" at my company. Thankfully, management & executives at my company never stood for that BS so I still get to use whitelist & blacklist in documentation, and don't worry about those non-issues get in the way of me actually doing work. Google might be too far gone, and working with those people would be so exhausting that it's actually stopped me from applyi…
>"My advice? Hit them where it hurts & vote with your feet. Google's not the top payer anymore, so just leave. "
In principle I agree but I feel like level headed folks choosing to leave only makes the echo chamber even worse. And sadly, I don't think Google as a company will suffer much of a downside because they're so big.
Re: Google’s AI-powered ‘inclusive warnings’ feature is very broken
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As someone who also works at Google, I agree that there is a vocal minority who want Google to be a promoter of progressive values, but: I think you nay be exaggerating things here. I've never even heard of any controversy over the word "motherboard". I just did some internal searches. It seems to be a well-used word, both in code and in documentation. (I did a code search for both "motherboard" and "mainboard" and t…
It's in the banned words list, I can share a link internally if you want.
We're sure it's in a List, but the point is that the List is not uniformly enforced, and "motherboard->mainboard" definitely seems like one to go to bat against because it Doesn't Make Sense to get rid of it.