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Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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This is great news, it is pretty pointless to use cryptocurrencies at all anyway since for Wikipedia: > Crypto was around 0.08% of our revenue last year, and it remains one of our smallest revenue channels. Remember that Wikipedia is one of the top 10 websites on the planet, I'm also assuming that other websites trying to accept crypto have even smaller percentages rendering cryptocurrencies as payment useless, not t…

So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

Removing the payment method simplifies the donations system. And since it’s not generating any value, it’s not worth keeping.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#32

Am I reading correctly that this is all cryptocurrencies, not just PoW? That's slightly surprising, although it probably simplifies things.

Does it simplify things? That's kinda hard to imagine.

I find it annoying that all cryptocurrencies would found guilty-by-association when it is well known that not all cryptocurrencies damage to the environment.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#33
post #25

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So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

Removing the payment method simplifies the donations system. And since it’s not generating any value, it’s not worth keeping.

that was not one of the arguments made in the RFC

> Common arguments in support include: issues of environmental sustainability, that accepting cryptocurrencies constitutes implicit endorsement of the issues surrounding cryptocurrencies, and community issues with the risk to the movement’s reputation for accepting cryptocurrencies.

it looks 100% ideological

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#34
post #25

This is great news, it is pretty pointless to use cryptocurrencies at all anyway since for Wikipedia: > Crypto was around 0.08% of our revenue last year, and it remains one of our smallest revenue channels. Remember that Wikipedia is one of the top 10 websites on the planet, I'm also assuming that other websites trying to accept crypto have even smaller percentages rendering cryptocurrencies as payment useless, not t…

So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

> So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

WP:NPOV is about article content, not payment systems.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#35
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

> So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral WP:NPOV is about article content, not payment systems.

> NPOV is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia and of other Wikimedia projects.

> Wikipedia is not a soapbox, an advertising platform, a vanity press, an experiment in anarchy or democracy, an indiscriminate collection of information, nor a web directory.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#36
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing the payment method simplifies the donations system. And since it’s not generating any value, it’s not worth keeping.

that was not one of the arguments made in the RFC > Common arguments in support include: issues of environmental sustainability, that accepting cryptocurrencies constitutes implicit endorsement of the issues surrounding cryptocurrencies, and community issues with the risk to the movement’s reputation for accepting cryptocurrencies. it looks 100% ideological

Accepting cryptocurrencies is equally ideological

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#37
Honestly the reasoning is weird. Don't get me wrong, I think crypto currencies are for the most part a scam, a ponzi scheme or a platform for pump and dumps.

Yet the whole thing just does not make sense imo. It's one thing to be against crypto, but refusing it when you are a charity for the most asinine moral purity tests is absurd. This 100% reminds me of the almost cultist like extremely negative reaction to anything related to crypto on some parts of twitter. Now I have been active in crypto mocking groups for years , but this feels more like some people have incorporated "anticrypto" to their daily culture war routine. So it must be purged from everywhere.

Also, I'm semi active in the wiki community and I have never heard anyone talk about the climate impact of their wiki mania meetups and the hundreds of flights that it requires. Or jimbo going to davos in private planes... etc. Well maybe this is signaling that climate change will actually be taken in consideration by the foundation and the wiki editors for their future policy decisions and RFCs , but I somehow doubt it.

The other reasons are even less relevant to wikimedia's mission.

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

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The law is alot more flexible. I’m in the non profit space. There isnt a single thing they would have had to do with crypto donated to them. So yeah they could have ridden it up. Even investing rules and guidelines from the state and fed exempt donated assets from them completely. Non profits just lack an incentive to learn how to do anything well, and are often staffed by people that have never had to consider marke…

> Non profits just lack an incentive to learn how to do anything well Being involved in a project that would benefit from being a formalized German no-profit entity, there is another issue: the laws around non-profit entities are vague and at the same time there are almost no lawyers specializing in non-profit laws and regulations. The major ones (think of Greenpeace and the likes) all have their in-house counsel, an…

in the US there are plenty of non-profit lawyers for US formalized non-profits

I am speaking from a US perspective

The tricky issue arises when there are interdisciplinary issues that require other kinds of legal counsel involved as well just to get the signoff on how to conduct a transaction

Re: Wikipedia RFC to stop accepting cryptocurrencies passes by majority vote

#40
post #25

This is great news, it is pretty pointless to use cryptocurrencies at all anyway since for Wikipedia: > Crypto was around 0.08% of our revenue last year, and it remains one of our smallest revenue channels. Remember that Wikipedia is one of the top 10 websites on the planet, I'm also assuming that other websites trying to accept crypto have even smaller percentages rendering cryptocurrencies as payment useless, not t…

So this is not great news at all, a totally inconsequential and pointless move for signaling virtue (look at the arguments given), which is contrary to wikipedia's aim to be neutral

Accepting cryptocurrencies is not neutral neither.

Neutral hardly exists.

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