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Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life. Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action o…

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

It has been said the reality has a liberal bias.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Yeah, Fox and CNN - at least their websites, have both become little more than he-said she-said tweet screenshots. I don't use Twitter for a reason, but now I have to see the garbage anyways.

At least Fox sometimes has recipes in the comments of Twitter news stories.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life. Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action o…

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

As someone who puts priority on distinguishing rhetorics vs facts, PBS is the furthest of the mainstream news outlets toward the "facts" end of the spectrum by a very large margin.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Anecdotally yeah. Agree. To me cnn is the exact same garbage as fox. Just leftist instead of rightist. I never click on any links to either media. Actually I used to line the guardian but in the past two years the quality of their reporting also just went alarmist and hyperbolic. In some cases blatantly inaccurate. Looking for a good news source currenty that arent afraid of critizicing any political party and their…

Reason.com is a libertarian source whose coverage and perspective does not align with the Dem or Repub parties.

"Not-red/not-blue agenda" is different from "no-agenda".

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I think the problem with the news is that it focuses only on the problems; They should do some research so they can focus on presenting the solutions. I think I would subscribe to a channel that tells me how to improve the world's problems.

That's only part of it. Them focusing on the problems isn't something new really (and from a financial standpoint is "understandable", as much as we hate this because it doesn't exactly benefit society that much), but the bigger problem is the fact that very often in the last decade they seemed to either lie by omitting key facts/aspects or straight out misrepresenting a story: which is something that people have began noticing, though very recently. This is not even going into the phenomenon that some outlets began popularizing the opinion-pieces to the point that their activism about certain topics began smelling too much like propaganda. Only very recently (~2019 and so imo) they started slowing down on this, but not after noticing that their pockets began hurting a lot due to their often-disingenuous journalism. Alternative journalism has grown a lot but some flaws are still there, it's not polished. Though I always tell myself if I want the truth I have to dig for it to the source, and even if misinformation is a legitimate issue, one cannot negate the fact that it's more probable that there's some raw video/information about a story that presents truth as close as possible, and is available deep in a social network or the internet.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

>If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman).

Wow, you weren't kidding. I was at least expecting it to differ from fox by showing different kinds of crime, but nope - subway shootings in NYC was the first thing I saw. Who the hell would ever pay for this???

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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CNN has spent the last 6 or 7 years transforming itself from a credible news organisation into an activist organisation. Of course this has a lower ceiling on subscriber numbers.

I blocked CNN in ublock origin the day I went there and it had front and center something like "the biggest threat to America is white men"... I just could not take them seriously any longer.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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An hour of PBS Newshour a day. Very much fact based reporting with maybe a slight left leaning bias. Digest it and move on and live your life. Besides that, I just turn off the news spigot. I'm slowly coming to the realization that watching news was kind of becoming my version of watching reality TV shows. There is of course value in being informed but outside of that, a single person can't meaningfully take action o…

> with maybe a slight left leaning bias As someone with a conservative leaning bias, I would consider PBS to have a very strong left (whatever that means) leaning bias. I guess it depends on your start point.

Yeah maybe. Are we talking about PBS overall or the Newshour segment?

In PBS Newshour the upfront report by Judy is very much fact based. I agree though that the various mini-documentary parts of the segment are less direct-fact based reporting and bias starts to creep in.

Anyways, I'm not too interested in starting an internet politics fight. The main takeaway from my post is that we should reevaluate what we are getting out of following the news obsessively.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Reason.com is a libertarian source whose coverage and perspective does not align with the Dem or Repub parties.

"Not-red/not-blue agenda" is different from "no-agenda".

Every news source has an agenda. GP was asking for news sources that are not afraid to criticize political parties, and they are not. They even have a range of libertarian views, and they criticize each other/the libertarian party.
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