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Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

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Sorry, but if it doesn’t have ublock origin, it’s not privacy friendly enough. Please make sure that this extension works, if any (and including advanced functionality such as disabling link auditing, which is no longer an option in safari).

Yes, we are actively evaluating possibilities for add-on support. However, you do not need ublock origin here for privacy protection. Our tracker blocker is powered by our best-in-class Tracker Radar data set ( https://github.com/duckduckgo/tracker-radar ) which is based on monthly crawls of the web looking for third-party trackers and uncovering the latest tracking techniques. Many academics and companies (including…

Thanks! Tracker-radar seems interesting.

My personal privacy standard is still much stricter than Apple's, and therefore will not be met without additional customization: I delete cookies on browser shutdown, block all third-party JS by default and remove some elements through ublock origin blacklists.

I agree that this is overkill for a consumer product, and I may recommend DDG browser to people on platforms where Firefox is not available with extensions (=iOS).

In any case, thanks for your work and transparency!

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#32
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing misinformation from Russia is a strange one to attack them for... considering the Russian invasion is about as non partisan of an issue (in the US at least) as I have seen in a long time. Regardless, search engines have to rank content somehow. We need to stop throwing around "politics" when something doesn't fit your particular narrative.

I agree with OP. DuckDuckGo should remain neutral and not censor search results. That was one of their main draws that set them apart from Google.

If you agree with the OP maybe read the article that they posted?

This was never a thing that DDG claimed they were for. DDG is about privacy!

If we were talking about nearly any other issue, I might agree with you. But in this particular case, this is not a political issue! This is an invasion. End of story. Any "information" claiming otherwise is propaganda and does not deserve to be spread as truth.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#33
post #11

Sorry, but if it doesn’t have ublock origin, it’s not privacy friendly enough. Please make sure that this extension works, if any (and including advanced functionality such as disabling link auditing, which is no longer an option in safari).

Yes, we are actively evaluating possibilities for add-on support. However, you do not need ublock origin here for privacy protection. Our tracker blocker is powered by our best-in-class Tracker Radar data set ( https://github.com/duckduckgo/tracker-radar ) which is based on monthly crawls of the web looking for third-party trackers and uncovering the latest tracking techniques. Many academics and companies (including…

> However, you do not need ublock origin here for privacy protection.

I'm happy to see DuckDuckGo entering this space and happy to see them building off of WebKit. And I think that DuckDuckGo is doing some fairly good stuff for privacy right now, and I hope they continue to move in that direction.

Nevertheless, this is a concerning comment. Ublock Origin isn't the only way to block ads of course, and it's not impossible for something else to do better. But there is a reason it's widely considered to be arguably the best adblocking browser extensions right now, and it's not just hype or advertising.

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> Our tracker blocker is powered by our best-in-class Tracker Radar data set

The reason Ublock Origin is currently arguably the best-in-class adblocker for privacy protection is not because it does web crawling or because it uses a special data set, it's because of its capabilities.

DuckDuckGo using Tracker Radar data really has nothing to do with this conversation. It's possible DuckDuckGo's protections are sufficient on their own, but to make that determination you'd need to talk about the actual anti-circumvention features that it has, not just where it gets its data from.

Bringing up Apple is particularly unfortunate, because Safari has easily the worst adblocking performance out of any major browser, so if they are using the Tracker Radar set to inform that, it's apparently not enough on its own to give them competitive adblocking performance.

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> Similarly our Smarter Encryption (HTTPS upgrading -- https://github.com/duckduckgo/smarter-encryption) is also based on regular web crawls and is many times more comprehensive then anything else out there.

This really shouldn't be in the same conversation, adblocking and connection upgrades are two separate factors of privacy. Both are important, but "we upgrade HTTPS" is kind of orthogonal to extension support.

However, since we're talking about HTTPS upgrading, bringing up that DuckDuckGo maintains a large list of sites to upgrade for doesn't really mean that much given that HTTPS upgrade policies (ought to) just all be based on the same lists. It's the same issue as above, I'm not worried about what data you use, that should be something that a lot of different extensions pull from. I'm worried about the capabilities, I'm worried about how effectively the browser can actually leverage that data set.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#34

Their selling points seem to be: - DuckDuckGo for Mac gives you privacy by default - DuckDuckGo for Mac is really fast! - DuckDuckGo for Mac is built for security. .. isn't that just (almost/good enough) Safari these days? Plus with Safari you typically get better battery life. And Apple's monetisation model makes me feel like they'll treat my privacy even better than a search engine. The only reason why sometimes I…

Ad blocking support in Safari isn't great. A lot of the best extensions are a paid subscription, and the free ones seem to be noticeably worse the uBlock Origin.

I just use the Privacy Extension from DuckDuckGo. It’s not an ad-blocker, but blocking trackers just happen to block most ads.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#35
I'm interested in trying this. There are a few things about it that appeal to me more than the other options. Plus, I like the idea of another browser option.

However, I find it weird that in order to get on the waitlist, I have to install the Duck mobile app. That seems like an unnecessary complication. And it also excludes people who don't have an iPhone. (I'm not sure if there's a Duck browser for Android.)

If it somehow incorporates Apple Pay, I will switch. That is the killer feature that keeps me on Safari.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#36
With their browser based on Safari and their search engine using Google’s index, DDG just feels like a rebranding exercise. It would be nice to get some real competition.

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

#38

I'm using DuckDuckGo almost exclusively[1] for years now and I'm pretty happy with it. I don't see much benefit in their browser though. I think their "Privacy Grade" , which is shown very prominently in the browser UI, is more harm than help. It is much too strict and rating everything down is counter to their intention. Is a B site still OK? What about a C, or. B+? If nothing is A, this is just confusing to the use…

Exactly. I run a static site over SSL with zero trackers, analytics, etc. but I get a B+ from DDG for "unknown privacy practices."

Re: DuckDuckGo for Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

must be a reference to this https://www.news18.com/news/tech/many-duckduckgo-users-feel-...

ah I see, so the preference is to allow propaganda to proliferate?

Don't want to speak for OP beyond that, but you can read the people critical of / in favor of the decision and try and understand their POV.
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