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The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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Reversing cameras essentially have the same function. They are amazing too btw. The one change to cars in the past 50 years that i really care about.

I don't mind having a carburetor. I don't mind wind down windows. I don't mind manual gearboxes. But I demand reversing cameras. It lets you know exactly where the car is as you parallel park.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm assuming everyone just bribes their way through the test?

Most definitely, which would be the same if something like that had been enforced in the US. We'd have some "Driving Schools", which would "guarantee" your license or something like that. Though people would have likely voted the government out first, but looking at the building codes I am not 100% confident.

Quality depends heavily on how corrupt your government is — in Germany, these strict tests are actually that strict and work well. But obviously not everyone can get a license due to this. (e.g., I opted not to spend the 2000€ that a license would cost).

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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I think it never made it big because: 1. Thinking about having to parallel park makes sure you are less likely to bump the cars in front and behind. Moving the front in and then swinging the back in seems like a good way to swing the back into another car. 2. Parking wasn't as much of a nightmare in the early 30s. Then WWII happened and that metal would have been an excess. By the 50s it was a "failed" idea. Having 9…

> By the 50s it was a "failed" idea. What do you mean by this?

When something has been around for a while but never caught on we're usually quite dismissive by default, usually on the assumption that it never caught on for a reason. Think of your own reaction the last time 3D TV's were hot.

Things will usually fail for the same reason again and agian unless there's been a fundamental change to make it more feasible, like battery tech making the latest round of electric vehicles successful.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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Many years ago I visited Buenos Aires, Argentina. In the flat parts of the city center, people would parallel-park their cars and leave them in neutral (very few cars had automatic transmissions) and without setting the parking brake. When you arrived and found a parking spot, there would be a man that, for some standard tip, would push all the cars in front or behind you, one at a time, until they were all bumper to bumper. This expanded the slot where you wanted to park, making your parking very easy.

When you wanted to leave, he would likewise push cars in front or behind you to widen the slot where you were, making it easy for you to pull out.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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post #34

Many years ago I visited Buenos Aires, Argentina. In the flat parts of the city center, people would parallel-park their cars and leave them in neutral (very few cars had automatic transmissions) and without setting the parking brake. When you arrived and found a parking spot, there would be a man that, for some standard tip, would push all the cars in front or behind you, one at a time, until they were all bumper to…

I have found that across most of the world (including expensive "first world" countries in Europe) it is perfectly normal for cars to have random dings and bumps from everyday use. I had a tour guide in Italy who "nudged" the cars on either end while getting into a parking spot and no one thought twice about it. In the US it would have caused a mini riot.

Over here for some reason it is socially unacceptable to have a car in less than pristine factory condition even after months or years of use, and people will spend thousands to fix the tiniest of scratches. It's crazy just how much of the average person's paycheck goes towards just getting from one place to another.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

#36

Parallel parking just isn't hard enough to justify the expense and complexity (same thing, really) of adding this device to a car. This is a lot of gizmosity to solve a problem that can be solved with a couple hours of practice on a quiet street.

> This is a lot of gizmosity to solve a problem that can be solved with a couple hours of practice on a quiet street.

Or you can just live in a less crowded place so you don't need to parallel park :P

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching Russian dashcam videos you'd think people found their licenses in a cereal box yet it requires a stern test with theoretical questions of the form "Here is an intersection, one street has a rail line, there are an ambulance, a fire truck, a military column and a bus on each side, who has the right of way?" (and the answer is that it's a bus because even though the fire truck would have a right of way normall…

I'm assuming everyone just bribes their way through the test?

Don't know about russia, but in my country plenty of people driving without a license or with a suspended one. Also, no limit on how many times you can take the written exam, so someone maybe had to take it ten times, got lucky with the questions or memorised all intersections and passed. The more academic folk ace the written exam, but then struggle with the driving part. And when you fail the driving part, you don't need to revisit the quiz portion, just the driving. Someone who passed their driving test after 5-6 attempts rarely tends to be a good driver.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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post #34

Many years ago I visited Buenos Aires, Argentina. In the flat parts of the city center, people would parallel-park their cars and leave them in neutral (very few cars had automatic transmissions) and without setting the parking brake. When you arrived and found a parking spot, there would be a man that, for some standard tip, would push all the cars in front or behind you, one at a time, until they were all bumper to…

That sounds like the French system, only they push the other car forward with their car instead of requiring some random car pusher guy. And somehow that is legal (?)

Just over the border in Germany there's a good chance of getting beaten to death if you attempt something like that. Cars are holy here.

Re: The “fifth wheel” parallel parking tool that never hit it big (2018)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mitsubishi (and others) in the 80s,90s had 4 wheel steering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steering#Four-wheel_steering https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/a1871191/four-wheel-steering-demystified/ I never drove one; I had a friend that said it really didn't do much for him that he noticed.

Doesn't one of the new mercedes have four wheel steering, but it refuses to be active during parking unless you pay a subscription?

I don't know if this is true or not, but I beg you, don't post comments like this. It's a question, and you could've spent the extra minute of research to _actually find out_ and post that.

This way we are left with negative value: We don't know any better, and instead are mentally burdened with speculation, that we have to actively work to not muddle up with what we know later on.

You can do better!

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