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An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by cormacrelf »

newaccount74 wrote: post #30
DIVx0 wrote: post #10

I don't use Safari but I still use this feature a lot even though I have to do a few extra steps because it does not integrate with anything other than Safari, its that useful for me. Some sites have never worked properly with the email+tag@gmail.com thing and some have even become wise to it and wont accept addresses like that (car dealers are the worst). I hope someday apple allows 3rd party integration with this f…

I don't get the email+tag. Spammers can just drop the plus tag and get your real email address?

If it makes it into a leak database, you know who to blame.

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by gzer0 »

The only thing really holding me back from wanting to use iCloud mailing services is the current implementation of MFA on Apple services.

It would be fine if you were allowed to use normal MFA options, but no, that is not possible. Instead, you MUST confirm your logins via already signed in Apple-devices only. There is no other way. Cannot use phone number (for good reason, but that is besides the point), cannot have a secret key based TOTP.

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by hombre_fatal »

gnuj3 wrote: post #8

Where is the ode to the likes of AnonAddy that have been about for a long time now AND are provides much better service?

Bringing first-class support for it on Safari/iOS is interesting, and I'm surprised they did it. Even my mom is using it because, when it pops up, why not.

Until this, it was just a handful of privacy-conscious folks using services like AnonAddy.

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by stu2b50 »

newaccount74 wrote: post #30
DIVx0 wrote: post #10

I don't use Safari but I still use this feature a lot even though I have to do a few extra steps because it does not integrate with anything other than Safari, its that useful for me. Some sites have never worked properly with the email+tag@gmail.com thing and some have even become wise to it and wont accept addresses like that (car dealers are the worst). I hope someday apple allows 3rd party integration with this f…

I don't get the email+tag. Spammers can just drop the plus tag and get your real email address?

They could, but they don't. Spammers cast a wide net and usually aren't concerned about the crumbs that fall through. Not to mention the people that do the plus or dot tricks are going to be extremely low value spam targets.

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by drexlspivey »

sosborn wrote: post #31
muhehe wrote: post #27

This is nice and all, until your apple account get locked (for no good reason)

You can say that about any email service that isn't self-hosted.

Using your own domain doesn’t have this problem as you can just move to another service

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by crossroadsguy »

muhehe wrote: post #27

This is nice and all, until your apple account get locked (for no good reason)

Or you want to send email (not a reply).

People are better off not using Apple’s HideMyEmail. There are better ways that allows this on your domain - no lock-in!

Or no lock-in with a device or browser (because without that it’s a bigger pain).

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by binwiederhier »

I have a unique email address for every single service that I sign up for, similar to this, though selfhosted. I've been doing this for years and it works wonderfully. If someone misuses my email address, or gets annoying, I can simply turn off the address. Bam!

It's the easiest Postfix config in the universe, essentially just:

  virtual_alias_domains = domain1.com domain2.com
  virtual_alias_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/virtual
And then /etc/postfix/virtual looks like this:

  phil.equifax@domain1.com firstname.lastname@gmail.com
  phil.experian@domain1.com firstname.lastname@gmail.com
  ... (hundreds of these)
I also made a super simple web UI for myself to edit this file quickly.

Gmail seems to be fine with this, emails do not usually end up in spam. Every full moon maybe, but usually it's alright.

It's not as shiny as Apple's thing, but it's 100% selfhosted and I own the domain.

Re: An Ode to Apple’s Hide My Email

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Post by muhehe »

sosborn wrote: post #31
muhehe wrote: post #27

This is nice and all, until your apple account get locked (for no good reason)

You can say that about any email service that isn't self-hosted.

That's true, of course. But this is adding another layer of dependency to already fragile reliability.

Edit: also with custom domain you can switch email providers.

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