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New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by whatshisface »

chrismeller wrote: post #30

While I absolutely approve of this, I’m constantly amazed at how far we’re (and mainly the US) is willing to go for ridiculously small percentages of the population. Parkinson’s is estimated to be about 1% of the US, but now every pharmacy in the country needs to buy and stock these bottles? Every time I’ve been to a pharmacy in the US in the last 20 years, they’ve had an option for “arthritis” bottles - something th…

>While I absolutely approve of this, I’m constantly amazed at how far we’re (and mainly the US) is willing to go for ridiculously small percentages of the population. Parkinson’s is estimated to be about 1% of the US, but now every pharmacy in the country needs to buy and stock these bottles?

Where did it say anyone has to stock these bottles? The article describes people who are 3D printing them: "Because of this thousands of people responded to Brian’s post and are now printing the bottle."

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Post by klyrs »

chiefofgxbxl wrote: post #26
reaperducer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's amazing that so many things that are medicinal, or otherwise intended for people who are not at 100% are packaged in a way that makes them impossible to open. Zyrtec-D, and Flonase come to mind. Two great examples of companies that must really hate their customers. Zyrtec-D has to be opened by peeling a micro-thin layer of foil away from a paper-thin piece of plastic. Flonase is sealed inside a plastic blister p…

> For example, at the grocery store, a theoretical eight-pack of bottled water costs $3.00. A theoretical 32-pack of bottled water costs $5.00. But no older person can lift a 32-pack of water. So to get 32 bottles of water, an older person has to pay 140% more just because they made the mistake of not dying young. The grocery store I go to (large regional brand) has for the last few years been asking people at checko…

That's half the battle... getting it from the curb, up the stairs, and into the home is also a problem that the helpful folks at the store won't solve

Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by whatshisface »

jotm wrote: post #17
melling wrote: post #8

I remember when Michael J Fox announced that he had Parkinson’s in 1998 https://www.michaeljfox.org/michaels-story He started his foundation to treat/cure the disease. Somehow I thought we’d have had made more progress in 25 years. I also find it interesting to look back at the US national debt and wonder how the world would have been different if we invested more of that into research (e.g medical, pure science, etc…

The research is there, some promising results, too. It just never gets to the people who need it. OK, maybe it will in another 20 years. "What if the side effects are bad, we need more testing". How about you let those who suffer decide? No? OK then.

We have a problem where approved = mandatory for Medicare to cover, so that even if you are willing to independently pay for whatever special medication or treatment you want to take a chance on, letting you do it would mean (because of poorly-thought-through regulations) buying one for everyone with the same condition whether it turned out to work for you or not. There's an enormous incentive for regulators to act as doctors, deciding what to prescribe, rather than as safety testers keeping obvious poisons out.

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Post by [deleted] »

chrismeller wrote: post #30

While I absolutely approve of this, I’m constantly amazed at how far we’re (and mainly the US) is willing to go for ridiculously small percentages of the population. Parkinson’s is estimated to be about 1% of the US, but now every pharmacy in the country needs to buy and stock these bottles? Every time I’ve been to a pharmacy in the US in the last 20 years, they’ve had an option for “arthritis” bottles - something th…

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Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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hetspookjee wrote: post #29

I have never seen a website with so many pop-ups. I counted 6 while visiting this website on Safari. It really makes me question my choices on why I'm even browsing the internet not through Firefox, but rather than Safari. I do it with Firefox every now and than, but still. Either way, couldn't read the article in this state.

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Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by pthreads »

reaperducer wrote: post #11

If you have relatives who struggle with pill bottles, let them know that many prescription pill bottles are designed so they can be re-capped by screwing the lid into the bottle upside down. That allows them to be re-opened much easier because there's much more gripping surface, and there's no need to squeeze to get past the child safety feature.

That is just plain awesome. I have to tell my neighbor who has been having issues with gripping etc.. I can't believe I hadn't noticed the screw threads on the top side of the lid all this time.

Thank you!

Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by hgomersall »

melling wrote: post #8

I remember when Michael J Fox announced that he had Parkinson’s in 1998 https://www.michaeljfox.org/michaels-story He started his foundation to treat/cure the disease. Somehow I thought we’d have had made more progress in 25 years. I also find it interesting to look back at the US national debt and wonder how the world would have been different if we invested more of that into research (e.g medical, pure science, etc…

The "national debt" is just non governmental wealth. It's an accounting artifact. The fact that interest is paid on most of it is entirely through choice.

Edit: The point is the policy space available to you has nothing to do with national debt and everything to do with politics, the same in the past as now.

Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by geoduck14 »

vmception wrote: post #5

is it still "child proof"?

>is it still "child proof"?

I'm a dad, and I have a soapbox to stand on and talk about child proof container. I have memories of my young children discovering over-the-counter pills and rat poison.

BUT, there is a distinct population of people who don't need or want child proof pill protection, and they should be served, too.

Re: New pill bottles for shaky hands will help people with Parkinson’s (2021)

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Post by vmception »

geoduck14 wrote: post #39
vmception wrote: post #5

is it still "child proof"?

>is it still "child proof"? I'm a dad, and I have a soapbox to stand on and talk about child proof container. I have memories of my young children discovering over-the-counter pills and rat poison. BUT, there is a distinct population of people who don't need or want child proof pill protection, and they should be served, too.

I'm not advocating for anything, I am wondering if there were design compromises necessary in a pure boolean fashion (which will then lead to wondering if both audiences can be served adequately with one single design)
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