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Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

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Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

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Someone stated that Putin doesn't think he's at war with Ukraine. He thinks he's at war with NATO. From some of the things he's said, I think that assessment is correct. That makes it really hard to stop. If he thinks he's already at war with us, then he can make that a reality how and when he wants. But I'm not sure we're sleepwalking into it. We're aware; we just have very few options of avoiding it if Putin is det…

What do you think God's Stance is on Billionaires/Oligarchs?

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

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My fear isn't that we are “sleepwalking into WW3“, but that the world is deep into it, but large parts of it are making it worse, in the long term, by denial of that fact. OTOH, I also desperately want the denial to turn out to be correct.

You're in very good company.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-...

Fiona Hill (without question the smartest person in the room on this topic) says that we're already in WWIII, in the sense of a global spread of conflicts with a handful of competing power centres.

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#33

Someone stated that Putin doesn't think he's at war with Ukraine. He thinks he's at war with NATO. From some of the things he's said, I think that assessment is correct. That makes it really hard to stop. If he thinks he's already at war with us, then he can make that a reality how and when he wants. But I'm not sure we're sleepwalking into it. We're aware; we just have very few options of avoiding it if Putin is det…

What do you think God's Stance is on Billionaires/Oligarchs?

they're greedy bastards. I shouldn't have to pull a source for Jesus not particularly caring for rich people

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#34

Yes, we are sleepwalking into WW3, much in the same way we sleepwalked into WW2. The West has completely misunderstood Putin, and will continue to do so until it's too late to stop these events (a strong show of force and a no-fly-zone would have stopped this, but it's too late now). Scholz is the Chamberlain of our age. Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space, and to secure Ru…

> Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space

What is this claim even based on?

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

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Being born in 1967, WWIII seemed potentially imminent for the first 20 years of my life. There's wasn't particularly a solution, you just go on anyway. If you're the leader of Russia, you have a good way of preventing this. If you're not, it's out of your control, so just focus on the things you can control.

This is absolutely true, and also why this can cause so much anxiety in most people. More people are afraid of flying in airplanes than driving a car precisely because they have no control over the outcome. Posting an opinion on social media about Ukraine, despite having less impact on the situation than a pebble dropped in a lake, can make some feel better. That might not be a bad or useless thing.

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#36

Someone stated that Putin doesn't think he's at war with Ukraine. He thinks he's at war with NATO. From some of the things he's said, I think that assessment is correct. That makes it really hard to stop. If he thinks he's already at war with us, then he can make that a reality how and when he wants. But I'm not sure we're sleepwalking into it. We're aware; we just have very few options of avoiding it if Putin is det…

What do you think God's Stance is on Billionaires/Oligarchs?

This very much feels like a troll. But just in case it's not:

If you're asking what I think God's position is on sanctions, I'm going to follow Obama and say "That's above my pay grade".

If you're asking about God's position on the existence of oligarchs, I'm pretty sure I've read some stuff about greed and covetousness and exploitation somewhere. I suspect God's got a problem, if not with the existence of billionaires and oligarchs, at least with the process most of them used to become billionaires (and their motivations).

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#37

Yes, we are sleepwalking into WW3, much in the same way we sleepwalked into WW2. The West has completely misunderstood Putin, and will continue to do so until it's too late to stop these events (a strong show of force and a no-fly-zone would have stopped this, but it's too late now). Scholz is the Chamberlain of our age. Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space, and to secure Ru…

> a strong show of force and a no-fly-zone would have stopped this, but it's too late now. Scholz is the Chamberlain of our age.

It's not too late to put up a no-fly zone. If it was ok then, why is it not ok now?

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#38
It does, and it doesn't. Like the US invasion of Iraq, the war in Ukraine doesn't make a damned lick of sense. The thing that I'm most scared of is the possibility that he'll actually use a nuke; that others will respond in kind. I think that a hot WWIII would be measured in days, and I don't expect that to happen.

What gives me hope is that nobody is really taking Putin's side here outside a few of Russia's neighbors which are already in shambles because of Russia's military excursions into them. Germany had more and stronger allies going into the previous two world wars; right now it's pretty much Russia vs the West and it seems that China doesn't want to get involved.

I'm somewhat dismayed at the non-involvement we're seeing. My heart-sinking prediction is that Russia will nuke Kiev (or perhaps something of more tactical value) and that still won't move the needle. That would define a new era in nuclear tactics; one which I'm terrified to contemplate.

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

#39

Yes, we are sleepwalking into WW3, much in the same way we sleepwalked into WW2. The West has completely misunderstood Putin, and will continue to do so until it's too late to stop these events (a strong show of force and a no-fly-zone would have stopped this, but it's too late now). Scholz is the Chamberlain of our age. Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space, and to secure Ru…

A no-fly zone would have resulted in direct conflict between US and Russia. In other words, at least WWIII-lite. It's a horrible idea.

Re: Are We Sleepwalking into Wwiii?

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post #34

Yes, we are sleepwalking into WW3, much in the same way we sleepwalked into WW2. The West has completely misunderstood Putin, and will continue to do so until it's too late to stop these events (a strong show of force and a no-fly-zone would have stopped this, but it's too late now). Scholz is the Chamberlain of our age. Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space, and to secure Ru…

> Putin aims for territorial expansion to reclaim the USSR plus some buffer space What is this claim even based on?

On the official Kremlin demand that NATO leaves all the post-Soviet and post-Warsaw Pact states. https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/nato/1790803/?lang=en
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