That’s a pain. I recently went through an active search and I have to say this was not my experience. There was one mixup about remote that we figured out in the first 15 minutes with the internal recruiter. For the rest, both the recruiter and the company explicitly assured me the positions were 100% remote and part of the interview was about each party’s experience and perspective working remotely. I had LinkedIn set to remote only, which may have helped.
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#32You definitely need to name the company that did this.
Why? This isn't Twitter, piling on a company doesn't add much to the discussion, it just lets people focus their outrage better
It lets you know not to trust the recruiter, at least, I know I'd like to know who did that.
Credibility is paramount on these things, and a recruiter doing this is wasting people's time and money.
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#33Since you are referring to the HC, and mention FAANG, I’ll assume this was Google. If so, it’s not that they don’t want remote hires. It’s that you didn’t qualify to work remote / without closer guidance. This is a typical way these rejections are worded.
Throwaway account for obvious reasons.
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#34I'm curious, what level was the position? The process was months long and went to a hiring committee? That sounds like a what you'd have for a faculty position or something, was this a research position?
Sounds like the standard google process to me.
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#35Don’t worry, remote WFH is ending. Soon, this situation will never happen.
You realize WFH was a thing before the pandemic, right?
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#36I'm curious, what level was the position? The process was months long and went to a hiring committee? That sounds like a what you'd have for a faculty position or something, was this a research position?
SWE. Some of the time I needed so I could answer leet questions and system design questions on the fly. A lot of time was spent scheduling, particularly around the holidays. There were some 'bonus' rounds of interviews I took because they f'd up.
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#37Don’t worry, remote WFH is ending. Soon, this situation will never happen.
My company more than doubled its workforce during COVID and we don't plan on leasing any more office space.
Not to mention we hired people all around the country, so most of them don't have a place to come in to.
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#38In the EU at least, you get a contract that specifically mentions place of work (and many countries have standardized remote clauses now).
What you sign MUST reflect the terms you agreed to…
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? This isn't Twitter, piling on a company doesn't add much to the discussion, it just lets people focus their outrage better
I'm not seeing why that would be a problem.
In what context is focusing ones outrage at all useful, ever? This is just reinforcing destruction, promoting group identity, enabling a mob mentality, and sometimes promotes violence.
Honest critique is one thing, mob mentality outrage is not an honest critique.
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#40Don’t worry, remote WFH is ending. Soon, this situation will never happen.
Hardly. I work at a startup that doesn't even have an office. We are distributed around the world, and everyone, CEO included, is WFH. Perhaps your comment was sarcastic, but that doesn't make it any less incorrect.
Not a startup, but my (small) company is absolutely hiring remotely, preferring EU timezones. We have an office, but it's generally unused. We've got people in at least 4 countries now, maybe 5 by next week. They were supportive when I took a ~year~8 months with the family to drive/airbnb around europe precovid.