Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 139 posts

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#31

Post by CJefferson »

dr_ wrote: post #14

Even before this announcement, it is beyond me how anyone can argue that this is not the best smartphone on the market. It has an incredibly fast processor, fantastic camera, one of the most popular music hubs (iTunes), the largest app store and probably the most advanced AI technology in a phone. When the technorati (and, to be honest, most bloggers have been supportive of the product) diss this phone, are they actu…

You really can't imagine why anyone might prefer the Samsung Galaxy S II (for example) to an iPhone?

How about (straight off the top of my head)

Better Linux connectivity.

Ability to easily copy files on and off the phone.

Ability to sync podcasts directly on the phone, without having to connect to a computer with iTunes (not used an iPhone for a while, they might have finally fixed this).

Ability to run software Apple doesn't like (emulators).

We haven't really seen the AI yet, I remain to be convinced, and I don't care about the camera.

Also, you mention price point. The iPhone (particularly the 4S) is about the most expensive phone around at the moment. In general of course the most expensive phone with have the fastest processor, that's hardly suprising.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#32

Post by [deleted] »

reidmain wrote: post #29
hahaiamatwork wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only really a couple of points in your post that are valid, so I'll go through each point you made. 1. Phones with the same class of processor have been available for some time now. Tegra 2 is a dual core 1ghz SoC and there are 1.2 and 1.5ghz dual cores from competitors, with a quad core 1.5ghz due from Nvidia within the next few months. 2. The camera may be excellent, but previous phones have applied some ba…

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

[deleted]

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#33

Post by [deleted] »

Cushman wrote: post #20
dr_ wrote: post #14

Even before this announcement, it is beyond me how anyone can argue that this is not the best smartphone on the market. It has an incredibly fast processor, fantastic camera, one of the most popular music hubs (iTunes), the largest app store and probably the most advanced AI technology in a phone. When the technorati (and, to be honest, most bloggers have been supportive of the product) diss this phone, are they actu…

There was a time, not too long ago, when Apple stuff was legitimately a worse deal than the equivalent brown-box product. It got ingrained into our cultural consciousness: Macs are overpriced, they underperform. They claim to put design first, but they still break. Not worth it unless you really like the OS. That hasn't been true for a while, of course; Apple has made all the deals they needed to be competitive or un…

[deleted]

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#34

Post by moultano »

reidmain wrote: post #29
hahaiamatwork wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only really a couple of points in your post that are valid, so I'll go through each point you made. 1. Phones with the same class of processor have been available for some time now. Tegra 2 is a dual core 1ghz SoC and there are 1.2 and 1.5ghz dual cores from competitors, with a quad core 1.5ghz due from Nvidia within the next few months. 2. The camera may be excellent, but previous phones have applied some ba…

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

I'm not understanding what you are saying. Any Android app you purchase can be installed on all of your Android devices. Would you mind rephrasing so I understand?

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#35

Post by kaylarose »

CJefferson wrote: post #31
dr_ wrote: post #14

Even before this announcement, it is beyond me how anyone can argue that this is not the best smartphone on the market. It has an incredibly fast processor, fantastic camera, one of the most popular music hubs (iTunes), the largest app store and probably the most advanced AI technology in a phone. When the technorati (and, to be honest, most bloggers have been supportive of the product) diss this phone, are they actu…

You really can't imagine why anyone might prefer the Samsung Galaxy S II (for example) to an iPhone? How about (straight off the top of my head) Better Linux connectivity. Ability to easily copy files on and off the phone. Ability to sync podcasts directly on the phone, without having to connect to a computer with iTunes (not used an iPhone for a while, they might have finally fixed this). Ability to run software App…

All of those are things regular people - i.e. not hacker news readers - don't give a toss about.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#36

Post by qweq »

reidmain wrote: post #29
hahaiamatwork wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only really a couple of points in your post that are valid, so I'll go through each point you made. 1. Phones with the same class of processor have been available for some time now. Tegra 2 is a dual core 1ghz SoC and there are 1.2 and 1.5ghz dual cores from competitors, with a quad core 1.5ghz due from Nvidia within the next few months. 2. The camera may be excellent, but previous phones have applied some ba…

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

moron

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#37

Post by hahaiamatwork »

reidmain wrote: post #29
hahaiamatwork wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's only really a couple of points in your post that are valid, so I'll go through each point you made. 1. Phones with the same class of processor have been available for some time now. Tegra 2 is a dual core 1ghz SoC and there are 1.2 and 1.5ghz dual cores from competitors, with a quad core 1.5ghz due from Nvidia within the next few months. 2. The camera may be excellent, but previous phones have applied some ba…

You're ignoring the significant downsides to the Android ecosystem. For example, if you purchase apps, you would be better off with an iPhone. Why? Because purchasing those apps on an Android phone means that the associated cost of switching to any other platform increases by the value of those apps. That cannot be justified as a 'good thing'.

You are incorrect. Android applications can be compiled against purely Android libraries, or Google's additional libraries. The ones which do not depend on Google's services specifically can be used anywhere you like.

For example: There's a company running Android apps on iOS now.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#38

Post by StacyC »

ugh wrote: post #26
thatjoshguy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 'disappointing' in the sense that, although it is more powerful and arguably better than the previous generation, people were wanting more substantial improvements.

And what exactly were those people wanting?

I think many just wanted a pretty new piece of hardware that looks different (‘better’) than the current form factor.

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#39

Post by thatjoshguy »

viscanti wrote: post #22
thatjoshguy wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's 'disappointing' in the sense that, although it is more powerful and arguably better than the previous generation, people were wanting more substantial improvements.

SunSpider results show that the browser is twice as fast as the previous generation. The processor is twice as fast with a 7x graphics performance improvement. That's a substantial improvement over an already good product. When you say people were wanting more substantial improvements, what you really meant was that they wanted a different name (iPhone 5) and case design. If the iPhone 4S internals were put into a di…

I think we are arguing the same point: the iPhone 4S is a great product and does have solid improvements.

I am not disappointed with the 4S, but it is apparently clear that a few vocal people are. Why are they disappointed? I can only guess that it would be because it doesn't have a 'next generation' design.

At first I was disappointed because I was after a larger screen (or just more of an 'edge-to-edge' display) for my iPhone and I would happily upgrade to that, but that is the extend to my disappointment. It is evident that the 4S an improvement upon the second generation and will be welcomed by people coming off their 3GS contracts

Re: iPhone 4S Pre-Orders Top One Million in First 24 Hours

#40

Post by protomyth »

The iPhone 4S will probably be my mom's first cell phone. She doesn't like tech and likes her big button home phone (as in 3/4" button big button). My father and her just moved and my Dad doesn't really want a home phone anymore. He has been looking at getting her a JitterBug. She uses and Apple TV fine (netflix, mlb, and iTunes), so it isn't like she cannot use technology. She just has a phobia of current cellphones. I think it is more from her not wanting to wear her glasses and not being able to read the phone (she sees the TV fine).

Given Siri, Mom will be getting the iPhone 4S.

Post reply on HN