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O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Re: O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Post by thorin1 »

derekp7 wrote: post #29
asdefghyk wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its why they shut down. TO much piracy. All the Oreilly ebooks I purchased had no DRM and I purchased a lot. Was a VIP customer - but maybe it was widely handed out - I do not know.

So the best way to combat piracy is to remove the option to purchase the product? Wouldn't that drive people more towards piracy?

Exactly.

Nothing changed for people who were pirating their books. They are still freely available on the Internet.

And people who were buying their ebooks can't anymore.

Re: O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Post by unmole »

throwaway158497 wrote: post #24

Anyone knows a good API to access books in my library? It is 2021 and there is no App which sends me daily notifications of what I must read. It is insane. The book is already checked out. I just need a remainder to read it or a random page given to me.

> It is 2021 and there is no App which sends me daily notifications of what I must read.

Everyday we stray further from the light of the gods.

Re: O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Post by tedmiston »

miguendes wrote: post #4

Oh what a shame, I was planning to sign up for ACM next week. Unfortunately, that was a predictable move from O’Reilly. I bet most of the folks signing up for ACM were actually after O’Reilly’s contents. I think the only cheaper alternative is during Black Friday period where they give a 100 usd discount.

Correct on Black Friday being the best and perhaps only major discount for O'Reilly Learning. Historically he Black Friday price is 50% off, at $199 down from the regular price of $399 [1]. It looks like they've raised the normal price to $499 now, so I would expect $249 on Black Friday this year.

Note: There is a significant typo in the article below, in that the renewal price in subsequent years does stay at the discounted rate. I've been subscribing since it was called Safari Books and still on the discounted rate.

[1]: https://slickdeals.net/f/13605994-year-of-o-reilly-online-le...

Re: O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Post by tedmiston »

the_only_law wrote: post #13
AnonHP wrote: post #10

Totally on a tangent here (and I realize that this may rub some people the wrong way): Maybe just ditch O’Reilly learning altogether? The publisher stopped selling ebooks online several years ago and left people with the only option of subscribing to the online service (it does participate in the discounted Humble Bundle sales once in a while). Now these subscription prices are way higher than before. Maybe this is w…

I gotta wonder what their mindset was doing that? We’re they particularly struggling prior to switching to subscription-only? Had other publishers begun to do something similar? Data collection scheme?

I see O'Reilly Learning as a mirror image of what Spotify did for music and Netflix did for TV shows.

Some people assume it's just books, but they have live content, video courses, etc too.

It's the best purchase I make for my professional life every year. If they ever offered a lifetime tier, I'd likely buy it.

In the past few years, I've browsed thousands of technical books on the site; but when it comes to paper technical books in the same time period, I've probably bought maybe just ~25. Access is king.

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Post by tedmiston »

_fs wrote: post #23
brian_spiering wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the tip. The partnership is called "O'Reilly for Public Libraries". I just logged onto the full O’Reilly Learning platform through my San Francisco public library account.

Just a heads up, you are not getting the full library from San Francisco public library. There are multiple levels of subscriptions offered to libraries. SFPL gets about most of the books, while san mateo has a better subscription and get's more. I have never seen any state library offer the full Oreilly library, but some colleges and the military libraries offer full access. SFPL is missing many of the newer books t…

My college had unlimited full access, but IIRC it only worked while you were connected to the university wifi network.

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Post by modelviewpotato »

AnonHP wrote: post #10

Totally on a tangent here (and I realize that this may rub some people the wrong way): Maybe just ditch O’Reilly learning altogether? The publisher stopped selling ebooks online several years ago and left people with the only option of subscribing to the online service (it does participate in the discounted Humble Bundle sales once in a while). Now these subscription prices are way higher than before. Maybe this is w…

Your can buy O’Reilly DRM-free PDF and ePUB ebooks from eBooks [dot] com. I love the amount and variety of content of O”Reilly platform but the web application is pretty mediocre and the mobile apps are buggy as hell.

Re: O’Reilly Learning platform no longer as a benefit of your ACM membership

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Post by alexott »

srazzaque wrote: post #5
mymllnthaccount wrote: post #2

The price from O'Reilly is 50/month or 500/year. I think there is a lot of content there, but I'm also finding it hard to stomach their pricing. $100/year was a no brainer (or whatever the membership fee for ACM was). I would probably do $200 or maybe even $300/ year. But $500!! Maybe I'll try talking my employer into paying for it.

I'd wager that employers/corporates are precisely their target market with this sort of pricing.

For corporate customers it usually costs significantly less. Few years ago I worked in a very big company, and as I remember, O'Reilly subscription cost per person was < $50

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Post by voakbasda »

JJMcJ wrote: post #12
srazzaque wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd wager that employers/corporates are precisely their target market with this sort of pricing.

Similar to conferences - $2500 plus travel means only a few successful consultants will go on their own money.

I personally think that is an intended consequence. In their minds, it keeps out the riff-raff.
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