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Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #2

> yet another start menu > yet more ads > requires modern hardware > more surprise updates breaking things Win11 not as popular? Imagine my shock and dismay. A sizable portion of my non-tech peers had bad experiences and one by one switched to Linux and the elder two switched to MacOS. Frankly I am baffled.

> requires modern hardware

*in a time when new hardware was so freakishly expensive that 4-5 year old hardware was being sold for more than it's original MSRP

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #12

The worst mistake was removing the ability to ungroup taskbar items! Opening more than one instance of an application is a terrible experience right now. The icons are often unresponsive, the indicator that something is open is literally just a tiny dot. Instead of addressing this I feel like Microsoft is just going to continue to add tabs to all their applications as justification for it. Edge, VS Code, Windows Term…

Some Windows 11 GUI customization tools:

Start All Back https://www.startallback.com

Explorer Patcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher

Open Shell https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #20

I haven't been following Windows development really, but wasn't 10 supposed to be "last version of Windows"? Anyone knows what happened to that, or if that statement has always been just overblown by tech media?

macOS updated to 11, can’t have another os with a higher number or others might want it instead.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

#34

A huge number of consumers who can't upgrade to Windows 11 due to unsupported hardware will instead opt for an iPad or Chromebook. Everything is either web- or app-based, and people don't want the complexity of Windows. Microsoft will lose a big chunk of the Windows user base this way.

i know more people with chromebooks and ipads they never use who went back to pc and enjoy windows 11..

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

#35

My gaming PC, which isn't that old (Skylake / GTX 1080) isn't compatible with Windows 11. It still works fine, but given that it will inevitably be out of date with something that requires Windows 11, and the current impossibility of buying reasonably priced GPUs, I bought an XBox instead. Microsoft gets my money anyway, I suppose, but all my real work is done on a Mac. It's funny how Microsoft is basically just a ga…

>which isn't that old (Skylake

To be fair, Skylake is pretty old. 2015 was 7 years ago which is quite significant in consumer tech years.

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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I'd really like to know how much Microsoft's behavior with recent Windows versions pays off. Specifically bundling lots of unwanted apps, forcing Edge and Defender down people's throats, removing basic UI customization features, etc. The fact that they are still doing this today suggests that they get something out of these decisions. Or at least they think so. I can only imagine that the part of customers being alie…

Windows defender is better than almost evrything out there. Edge is as annoying as chrome or safari is on their respective os’s and no basic ui stuff has really been removed that tons of freeware and addons didn’t allow one to customize and they’re releasing a new update to continue to refine the UX/UI

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

#37

A huge number of consumers who can't upgrade to Windows 11 due to unsupported hardware will instead opt for an iPad or Chromebook. Everything is either web- or app-based, and people don't want the complexity of Windows. Microsoft will lose a big chunk of the Windows user base this way.

i know more people with chromebooks and ipads they never use who went back to pc and enjoy windows 11..

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Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

#39

A huge number of consumers who can't upgrade to Windows 11 due to unsupported hardware will instead opt for an iPad or Chromebook. Everything is either web- or app-based, and people don't want the complexity of Windows. Microsoft will lose a big chunk of the Windows user base this way.

i know more people with chromebooks and ipads they never use who went back to pc and enjoy windows 11..

My wife has never owned a windows laptop; she's been on Chromebooks exclusively since 2017.

I don't know how far apart the ratio is, but now you know one more ;)

Re: Windows 11 may not be as popular as Microsoft had hoped

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post #2

> yet another start menu > yet more ads > requires modern hardware > more surprise updates breaking things Win11 not as popular? Imagine my shock and dismay. A sizable portion of my non-tech peers had bad experiences and one by one switched to Linux and the elder two switched to MacOS. Frankly I am baffled.

I'm actually glad that they had the modern hardware requirement. It means that Microsoft can't suddenly surprise update me into Windows 11.
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