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Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#31

Share the "previous emails" they sent you, you either ignored them, or you know what you did wrong and are trying to play the innocent actor Hard to judge without having all the data in hand

Previous emails. That's funny. They don't send warnings and they don't allow appeals. It's 100% to done.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#32
post #7

We need legislation forcing companies to manually review algorithmic decisions that impact people's lives - there has to be a proper appeals process. It's simply not economical for many companies to deal with the long tail of false positives, so they don't. Google has billions of users, and if their algorithms are 99.999% right about bans, their metrics look great but that's still tens of thousands users wrongfully b…

Call your congressional rep [1]. That's what it takes; to get policymakers to write and pass the law. I imagine there's bipartisan support at the moment for reining in Big Tech [2].

Google is never going to improve the situation out of the goodness of their corporate heart (if such a thing were even to exist).

[1] https://www.commoncause.org/find-your-representative/

[2] https://nypost.com/2022/03/29/biden-doj-backs-senate-antitru...

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#33

Share the "previous emails" they sent you, you either ignored them, or you know what you did wrong and are trying to play the innocent actor Hard to judge without having all the data in hand

It’s easier to feed the anti-Google circle jerk this way.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#34

Googles dumb machine learning is destroying peoples lives and will continue to do so for decades unless somebody stops them. They control most of the internet and mobile space, it’s like having your water cut off permanently

I wonder if the devs behind these kind of automations ever stop and think about the ethical sides of it.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#35

Googles dumb machine learning is destroying peoples lives and will continue to do so for decades unless somebody stops them. They control most of the internet and mobile space, it’s like having your water cut off permanently

I'm really unsure why people still decide to build their companies under Google products

What about Google scanning Company ownership records, without authorization, adding your own residence in Google Maps as the company headquarters, and then prompting you to take over the record on their own system if you are the company owner?

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#36

Googles dumb machine learning is destroying peoples lives and will continue to do so for decades unless somebody stops them. They control most of the internet and mobile space, it’s like having your water cut off permanently

I'm really unsure why people still decide to build their companies under Google products

Android has a ~70% share of the mobile device market, that seems reason enough.

(Although more focus on the mobile web rather than apps might be a good thing)

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#37
post #7

We need legislation forcing companies to manually review algorithmic decisions that impact people's lives - there has to be a proper appeals process. It's simply not economical for many companies to deal with the long tail of false positives, so they don't. Google has billions of users, and if their algorithms are 99.999% right about bans, their metrics look great but that's still tens of thousands users wrongfully b…

> We need legislation forcing companies to manually review algorithmic decisions that impact people's lives, and have a proper appeals process.

I don't think this is enforceable nor I think it's even possible to have such legislature.

At the end of the day Google has every right to decide what they put and what they don't put on their store, with whom they do business and with whom they don't.

> With how much our modern lives are dependent on services like Google's, they effectively become utilities and should be regulated as such.

Calling an online application store an utility seems quite a stretch.

De-googling and de-duopoling is the answer to these situations. At the end of the day you can't force Google or Apple to have your products on their shop.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#38
post #4

In the discussion of the last article, there was a discussion about weaponizing "associated accounts" when Google shuts things down. Looks like it's 100% a valid tactic. Looks like you need to make sure your employees all leave on good terms, and stay on good terms in the coming years. Otherwise, you too might find your Google accounts terminated with no recourse.

This also suggests a need for app development companies to ban developers from using personal accounts to associate with a project. I realize this just sends more money in the direction of Google but if every app developer was set up with a G-Suite (or whatever it's called this week) account for developer access then there could be no question of actions a developer does on their own accounts coming back to bite the company. Likewise, there needs to be a mechanism for the company to mark a developer's account as "fired for cause" so that if they did anything toxic on the company-assigned account the company could pre-signal to Google that they are proactively taking care of things and following the rules.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#39

Share the "previous emails" they sent you, you either ignored them, or you know what you did wrong and are trying to play the innocent actor Hard to judge without having all the data in hand

Where are you seeing that previous emails were sent?

The screenshotted notice indicates it may be due to actions by the individual developer on their own account, for which the company would not necessarily have been notified.

Re: Google terminated our Developer Account, says it is “associated”

#40
post #7

We need legislation forcing companies to manually review algorithmic decisions that impact people's lives - there has to be a proper appeals process. It's simply not economical for many companies to deal with the long tail of false positives, so they don't. Google has billions of users, and if their algorithms are 99.999% right about bans, their metrics look great but that's still tens of thousands users wrongfully b…

> We need legislation forcing companies to manually review algorithmic decisions that impact people's lives, and have a proper appeals process. I don't think this is enforceable nor I think it's even possible to have such legislature. At the end of the day Google has every right to decide what they put and what they don't put on their store, with whom they do business and with whom they don't. > With how much our mod…

You are right, just don't do business with this evil company. Simple as that.
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