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Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by chockchocschoir »

charcircuit wrote: post #30
jacquesm wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they should strengthen them instead and put a couple of offenders out of business that would definitely get a lot more companies to fall in line and stop abusing their users. Effectively you are arguing that the self regulation worked, but it really didn't. Hence the need for legislation and hence these (still pretty mild) fines. For starters: don't include third party resources in your offering. That already cut…

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

If you're not collecting personally identifiable information, you are not affected by GDPR and can proceed as normal. Not exactly sure what "recording facts about the world" means, but if it doesn't involve individuals and their data, you don't have to change anything.

I agree that general information should be free, but there is a difference between general information and personal information. Personal information (like the photos I take in my bedroom) should not be free unless I agree to that.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by profile53 »

charcircuit wrote: post #30
jacquesm wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they should strengthen them instead and put a couple of offenders out of business that would definitely get a lot more companies to fall in line and stop abusing their users. Effectively you are arguing that the self regulation worked, but it really didn't. Hence the need for legislation and hence these (still pretty mild) fines. For starters: don't include third party resources in your offering. That already cut…

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

Me standing outside your bathroom window with a camera is simply recording facts about the world but is still unequivocally abusive toward you.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

#33

Post by andrejguran »

charcircuit wrote: post #30
jacquesm wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they should strengthen them instead and put a couple of offenders out of business that would definitely get a lot more companies to fall in line and stop abusing their users. Effectively you are arguing that the self regulation worked, but it really didn't. Hence the need for legislation and hence these (still pretty mild) fines. For starters: don't include third party resources in your offering. That already cut…

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

What if the recording is your conversations? What if it's the location of places you visited? What if it's people you're on pictures with? It's still just recording facts about the world? Are you comfortable with apps doing this without any oversight?

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by Hamcha »

charcircuit wrote: post #23

I wish Europe would undo these privacy laws so that the web can go back to normal before they ruined it for the entire world.

The web was "normal" before corporations started abusing it since it was not regulated. Europe is merely putting adding those regulations so corporations can stop ruining the web for us.

If you think this is bad, our (Italy) privacy laws in meatspace are orders of magnitude more annoying than GDPR, to the point where we have to write in our resumes that we allow whoever reads it to use it, otherwise they wouldn't be even able to store them in their archives.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by charcircuit »

profile53 wrote: post #32
charcircuit wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

Me standing outside your bathroom window with a camera is simply recording facts about the world but is still unequivocally abusive toward you.

I don't see it as abusive. You would be weird to do so though.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by charcircuit »

andrejguran wrote: post #33
charcircuit wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

What if the recording is your conversations? What if it's the location of places you visited? What if it's people you're on pictures with? It's still just recording facts about the world? Are you comfortable with apps doing this without any oversight?

That's fine. Discord already has thousands of conversations that I've had with people. Google has a history of places I've visited and I've had an improved Google maps experience from that data. I don't really take many pictures with people. I would say I am mostly fine with it. It would me nice if they could disclose what they collect though. I think informing consumers is a good thing.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

#37

Post by charcircuit »

chockchocschoir wrote: post #31
charcircuit wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

If you're not collecting personally identifiable information, you are not affected by GDPR and can proceed as normal. Not exactly sure what "recording facts about the world" means, but if it doesn't involve individuals and their data, you don't have to change anything. I agree that general information should be free, but there is a difference between general information and personal information. Personal information…

Once you have shared a picture of your bedroom to the world I believe it should be free to exist. If someone noted that you had a booshelf in your room I don't believe you should be able to have that information taken down just because it is information related to you.

Edit: If knowledge of the bookshelf does not count as personal information instead someone could post your address my crossreferencing the photos with houses that have been sold in that area in the past.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by supermatt »

MrJohz wrote: post #12
gundmc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using Google fonts is a violation now. It's a nightmare for web developers.

Note that fonts from Google Fonts can be self-hosted which resolves that problem. It's a little bit more work to set up, but it does resolve this issue well, while also being slightly more efficient for the end-user (assuming that you've got a decent CDN setup).

no less efficient hosting yourself.

cross-site resource caching has been unavailable in major browsers for a while - safari since 2013, chrome since 2020, firefox since 2021.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

#39

Post by jacquesm »

charcircuit wrote: post #30
jacquesm wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they should strengthen them instead and put a couple of offenders out of business that would definitely get a lot more companies to fall in line and stop abusing their users. Effectively you are arguing that the self regulation worked, but it really didn't. Hence the need for legislation and hence these (still pretty mild) fines. For starters: don't include third party resources in your offering. That already cut…

Me collecting data is not me abusing my users. I am simply recording facts about the world. Being forced to censor facts because the people the fact is about don't like it is plain censorship. Information should be free.

Compliance with the law is not optional, as you will probably find out at some point. All this naive 'information should be free' stuff went out of fashion in the 00's when it was all the rage on /.

Re: Largest GDPR fines surpass $1.3B

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Post by Daishiman »

hulitu wrote: post #18
Daishiman wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody in their right mind is going to carefully peruse the cookies and injected JS scripts of every page they visit. No, the onus is clearly on the developers, who are the ones with the professional responsibility to make software that abides by the laws.

When the law is not enforced, there is no hope.

Clearly the GDPR is being enforced
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