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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: What media doesn't choose their guests to fit their opinions or their political stance? I'd like to watch that one.
The coronavirus experts that the mainstream media platformed are far more representative of the general opinion of the medical and epidemiological community than the experts Joe Rogan platformed.
> are far more representative of the general opinion of the medical and epidemiological community
But that isn't the answer to the question asked in the parent comment. The parent was wondering which media would choose guests that have a differing view from theirs. The mainstream media happened to align with the people representing the general opinion of the medical and epidemiological community, and were rarely inviting Robert Malone, Peter McCullough, or Jay Bhattacharia, who had different views.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: What media doesn't choose their guests to fit their opinions or their political stance? I'd like to watch that one.
The coronavirus experts that the mainstream media platformed are far more representative of the general opinion of the medical and epidemiological community than the experts Joe Rogan platformed.
The media manufactures opinion so that isn't surprising, the same can be said for the Hunter Biden laptop story, or WMD in Iraq.
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#34interesting, but largest ever? not according to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz4adJXLHgA which got very different results
Post in the thread [1] gives a very plausibly-sounding hypothesis for seeing different results in non-western countries like your link. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30720766
ahh yes i see.
yes that sort of information is quite vacant from these stats.
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#35We did not eliminate pandemics. Instead, as a Society we barely made it through this one. Despite the massive human and economic cost of this latest pandemic, governments are making the same mistakes again:
- Lack of preparation.
- Not enough resources allocated to research.
- Too much reliance on Pharma and particularly Vaccine producing companies.
The best research is still done mostly via foundations or private funding. Some of the most interesting work is still ongoing.
At the UK Recovery Study: https://www.recoverytrial.net/
They are investigating several treatments including Ivermectin. Results so far here:
https://www.recoverytrial.net/results
Also the PRINCIPLE Study is investigating Ivermectin with no published results yet. They were able to publish some results for other treatments already.
Principle Results:
https://www.principletrial.org/results
The EU also has EU-Response initiative with Study results here:
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#36The whole Ivermectin debacle was ridiculous.
I never had Covid. Or if I did, it was so mild I never noticed. So, I really have no dog in this fight. But the way the media handled this coverage was really, really off-putting.
First, if it doesn't work, just say that. "It doesn't work". "Ivermectin is not an effective treatment for Covid". That's all that was really necessary, right?
But no, there was this whole ridiculous crusade of "It's a horsey drug for horses! If you take it, that means you're a horse!". Which, after two seconds of consideration, was patently absurd. It's an extremely commonly prescribed drug for people. And there's plenty of drugs that are used for both people and animals. Ketamine. Antibiotics. We give antibiotics to horses too. So does that mean if you take antibiotics you're some whackjob taking horse drugs?
So now you have the media constantly repeating something which anyone with two brain cells can discern is a blatant lie, and they somehow wonder why people don't trust them?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This study appears to have been done in Canada, where parasite infection rates in the general population are probably 1% or less. Hence... no demonstrable benefit to using Ivermectin! "Dr. Mills and his colleagues looked at 1,358 adults who visited one of 12 clinics in the Minas Gerais region of Brazil with Covid-19 symptoms."
To close that circle, apparently parasite infection is quite high in Minas Gerais: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4964320/ > Eleven sites were selected for sampling. Cysts of Entamoeba coli were the most frequently found in this study (50%), followed by Hymenolepis diminuta eggs (27.6%), Iodamoeba butschllii cysts (5.6%), Ascaris lumbricoides eggs (5.6%), Taenia species eggs (5.6%) and hookworm eggs (5.…
Sadly, I could find no studies on parasite infection rates in Minas Tirith, however.
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#39Ivermectin works because the first trials were done in developing economies where the average person had a high chance of parasitic infections. The steroids used as a standard front-line treatment for severe COVID decreases the immune response to parasites, allowing them to multiply unchecked. This killed patients indirectly, but dead is dead , and they "checked in" with COVID, not parasite complaints. Ivermectin is…
> [internal parasites] can cause, among other things, diarrhoea, fatigue and weight loss. However, they only pose a graver threat if their numbers grow out of control. Such “hyper-infection”, which is often fatal, becomes far more likely if a patient is receiving corticosteroids, which both suppress the immune system and appear to make female worms more fertile. And dexamethasone, a corticosteroid, is now a standard treatment for severe covid-19, because it prevents the immune system from going into overdrive and attacking the body’s own cells. [1]
The amplification effect of steroids on parasites is backed up by research on mice [2] and an informal survey of the ivermectin/covid research shows good evidence for the same effect in humans [3]
[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220220090522/https://www.econo...
[2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3110371/
[3] https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/ivermectin-much-more-t...
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: What media doesn't choose their guests to fit their opinions or their political stance? I'd like to watch that one.
The coronavirus experts that the mainstream media platformed are far more representative of the general opinion of the medical and epidemiological community than the experts Joe Rogan platformed.
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