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Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by jrimbault »

lxhrstn wrote: post #29
jrimbault wrote: post #23

Is there something similar to F1 but with autonomous cars ? Just a race between autonomous cars, pitting teams of engineers directly against each other instead of via the human pilot. I guessed that would involve some pretty different design of the cars, since without the human much of the current designs around safety wouldn't apply. Cars could go faster, slow less, take more risky trajectories. There's RobotWars, b…

This already exists, it's called Roborace ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roborace )

Thanks :) that was why I asked here

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by ChildOfChaos »

Markoff wrote: post #11

I used to watch F1 back in 90s until beginning of 00s, it was interesting, there were not that significant differences between cars and you could see actual driving skills and overtaking, over the time it turned into siesta lullaby where overtaking happens at best in the pitstop and that's it, pretty much boring from start to finish and you really need to stay extremely focused to not fall asleep. What F1 really need…

There is a budget cap now, so teams have no difference in how much money they have to spend on R&D.

All cars the same would be boring and overwhelming, the sport is in large part about the teams and the engineering, the upgrades they bring and the sway between which team is the best. I watch it because I love seeing this excellence at work and i'm not even into cars, I don't drive, so i care less about that.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by oarsinsync »

kqr wrote: post #12

This article failed to mention what seems to me like one of the most important aspects of the competition: team dynamics. Mercedes is the only team (as far as I know) that says things like "we win as a team and lose as a team", try to hold blame-free retrospectives, open collaboration between various sub-teams, and so on. Every other team goes for cut-throat competition between individuals. "You have to prove yoursel…

> says things like "we win as a team and lose as a team"

This is pretty common amongst teams that are on a strong winning streak. Red Bull were very much this way during Vettel's dominance years too.

Ferrari in recent years are extremely this way as well, it just presents in a different way. If a driver speaks out negatively about the team, they're shown the door pretty quickly.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by toyg »

dodgerdan wrote: post #21

Formula 1 is one of the worst offenders of Sportswashing, the practice of dictators and human rights abusers to use their money to buy good will in the sports world. And not just in Russia & Saudi Arabia, F1 is hosted by lot’s of other dictators, human rights abusers countries. Just like FIFA: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/feb/25/uefa-and-fi...

F1 lived for decades (and still does, to an extent) on money provided by tobacco companies. IIRC they even raced in apartheid SouthAfrica during boycott times.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by mauvehaus »

"New drivers typically also only get a dozen or so races to prove themselves..."

Unless you're a pay driver who's bringing enough money to almost wholly fund the team. Nikita Mazepin is surely one of the most talentless people to ever set foot in an F1 car, but he brought Russian Oligarch money with him so we'd have had to endure him for another season had Russia not invaded Ukraine. I'm genuinely curious to see if Haas can last the season now that they've shown him the door.

Incidentally, I believe technically we could have as many as 26 cars on the grid (13 teams), but because even being epically uncompetitive at formula 1 is ruinously expensive, and the fact that only the top 10 teams get any prize money at the end of the season, the grid has been 20 cars for a while.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by klausjensen »

jrimbault wrote: post #23

Is there something similar to F1 but with autonomous cars ? Just a race between autonomous cars, pitting teams of engineers directly against each other instead of via the human pilot. I guessed that would involve some pretty different design of the cars, since without the human much of the current designs around safety wouldn't apply. Cars could go faster, slow less, take more risky trajectories. There's RobotWars, b…

I think the largest attempt at something like that is Roborace - a spinoff from Formula-E (Formula 1 - for electric vehicles).

But they lack the human aspects, personalities etc, which is a huge part of Formula 1.

After many years away from Formula 1 (because it became boring), which I loved as a kid, I started following it again last year, and absolutely love it again.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by toyg »

jug wrote: post #15

For me also: community. I love the F1 community discussing the off-track banter, the drama, the memes, that has grown immensely since Drive to Survive. Here's a shout-out to www.reddit.com/r/formula1! It has maybe become my favorite subreddit on that site. Professionally moderated with semi-regular appearances of drivers or team representatives for Q&A's as well. Every practice session, qualification, race also gets…

What, no mention of r/formuladank ? Once you look past the neofascist sympathies of moderators, it can be a pretty good source of content. All r/formula1 memes are born there first. The Alphamaxnova1 shorts were !

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by chrisan »

basisword wrote: post #14
Markoff wrote: post #11

I used to watch F1 back in 90s until beginning of 00s, it was interesting, there were not that significant differences between cars and you could see actual driving skills and overtaking, over the time it turned into siesta lullaby where overtaking happens at best in the pitstop and that's it, pretty much boring from start to finish and you really need to stay extremely focused to not fall asleep. What F1 really need…

>> What F1 really needs is one monopost for all drivers when only driving skills will make difference and not how much money will someone throw at car R&D. That would no longer be F1. There are lots of other categories that follow that formula (e.g. F2/3 and IndyCar) if that’s what you’re looking for. Engineering genius is an important part of F1, even historically (e.g. the “fan car”).

The problem is we don't need a full race to see engineering genius. Certainly not a full season.

I've been watching F1 since Senna burst out. Naturally as a kid I loved seeing him win and could care less about most other drivers of the time, certainly the bottom half. As an adult however, I wish things were more equal.

F1 could do with less of a gap between the poor and rich and showcase drivers who have to constantly make choices and perform at their best to maintain vs car A vs car B where car A is always going to be superior.

Re: Why I love Formula 1 (and why you might like it too)

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Post by itsbits »

If you like F1 because of "Drive to Survive", I am sorry but F1 is not at all like that. I have been follower of F1 for more than 20 years now. But not because of only racing. Racing is just 20%. It's more a team game, team politics, engineering, team strategies etc that keeps my interest in F1. If you just follow live racing, I can guarantee you, it's more boring than 5 day cricket test matches. There are lot times a team gonna keep leading for ages. Like mercs for almost 7 years now. But behind doors there are teams who try to do politics to makesure they comeback on top.
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