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Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by kennyadam »

dustinmoris wrote: post #27
PaulKeeble wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were quite a few protests in the UK last year against the lockdowns, despite the fact there was no lockdown at the time or planned (nor did it happen) in the future. Quite a few cults seem to go past their doomsday date and simply choose another into the future. They just carry on as if the lack of the event never happened.

Those protests happened because new lockdowns were introduced in the EU at that time and the Labour party was calling for harsher restrictions again despite all evidence from South Africa suggesting that Omicron is nothing but a super mild cold and people already being double jabbed anyway. People were terrified of another lockdown and that is why they went protesting to offer a counter voice to opposition party MPs…

As long as you realise just how selfish your last sentence is. Presumably you never expect anyone to even help you out at any cost to themselves, no matter how small?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by kryogen1c »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

This is entirely the wrong take. Its like saying everyone was panicking for no reason in the Cold War because Earth wasn't destroyed in nuclear hellfire.

Its feasible that vocal protests helped push back against further tyranny.

i dont want to go down the who was right and who was wrong rabbit hole of covid policies. just dont use hindsight to try and retroactively prove your point.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by creativenolo »

dustinmoris wrote: post #27
PaulKeeble wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were quite a few protests in the UK last year against the lockdowns, despite the fact there was no lockdown at the time or planned (nor did it happen) in the future. Quite a few cults seem to go past their doomsday date and simply choose another into the future. They just carry on as if the lack of the event never happened.

Those protests happened because new lockdowns were introduced in the EU at that time and the Labour party was calling for harsher restrictions again despite all evidence from South Africa suggesting that Omicron is nothing but a super mild cold and people already being double jabbed anyway. People were terrified of another lockdown and that is why they went protesting to offer a counter voice to opposition party MPs…

> all evidence from South Africa suggesting that Omicron is nothing but a super mild cold

I get your point. And the UK didn't lockdown. But this statement is a stretch.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by dustinmoris »

involans wrote: post #4
culopatin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In reality I all a bit of a theatre. If you believe in the mask effectiveness, you’ll get it when everyone takes their mask off at the same time to eat every time they hand off something. Almost no one wears an n95 for long flights and most people will wear the mask as poorly as they can anyway. Edit: just to clarify, I don’t have anything against anyone who believes in the mask effectiveness and wants to wear it. Bu…

You don't have to eat during the flight, or you can delay eating to be out of phase. I've done that and so far it's been effective over a number of transatlantic flights.

> You don't have to eat during the flight

In theory you don't have to do anything mate. Just lie down in a coffin at home, shut the door and I bet you you won't catch COVID or any other mild respiratory illness. If to you the meaning of life is to get born, not catch COVID under any ridiculous circumstances and then die then this is a dead sure way of achieving your dreams!

I rather live life, take risks, feel my heart beat, go out and spend intimate time with other people, feel the thrill of being close to other human beings, feeling the joy of a person's touch, seeing their beautiful face when they laugh, share food and drinks without being paranoid and indulge myself in everything the world has to offer. Getting a mild cough or feeling a week a bit ill because of a flu every few years is a small price to pay for all the amazing memories I'll collect along the way.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by andybak »

tomerv wrote: post #14

Shame, I actually liked the idea of mandatory masks on public transportation. I always get sick on flights (pre-COVID; I haven't flown since COVID started) and it's really annoying to have a runny nose while on vacation. I'm sure I catch it in the airport or on the plane, because it always starts 1-2 after the flight.

I had a very expensive holiday mostly ruined because someone arrived at a 1 to 1 meeting with me the week before and announced 5 minutes in: "sorry - i've got a cold at the moment".

I now always phone ahead if I've got sniffles and ask permission. There should be better ettiquette around things like this.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by antihero »

tinybrotosaurus wrote: post #25
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

Conspiracy? Their point is compliance. Do what you are told without questioning it, be it government policy or corporate wish. People did nothing after 2008, they did nothing after proof of government mass surveillance, and they choose not to care what software runs in their devices on a daily basis. 50 years ago no one would even consider installing a microphone in their houses, now those that refuse it are seen as…

I did question it, and I also remember when the police and government were trying to ban masks as they hindered surveillance. Seems like people seemed to forget that. It was a small inconvenience that probably helped things. Now it’s kind of irritating - currently on holiday in Lisboa and the obsessiveness is frustrating.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by andybak »

andy_ppp wrote: post #10
involans wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't have to eat during the flight, or you can delay eating to be out of phase. I've done that and so far it's been effective over a number of transatlantic flights.

I was under the impression that masks don't protect you that much, they protect other people from you?

The devils's in detail. How much is "not that much"? I'll take all the cumulative small probability gains I can get. Cost vs benefit.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by wasmitnetzen »

kryogen1c wrote: post #32
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

This is entirely the wrong take. Its like saying everyone was panicking for no reason in the Cold War because Earth wasn't destroyed in nuclear hellfire. Its feasible that vocal protests helped push back against further tyranny. i dont want to go down the who was right and who was wrong rabbit hole of covid policies. just dont use hindsight to try and retroactively prove your point.

Doesn't that mean you can warn of anything, and if it doesn't happen, you can say "See, it didn't happen because I yelled about it on the internet"?

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by dustinmoris »

kennyadam wrote: post #31
dustinmoris wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those protests happened because new lockdowns were introduced in the EU at that time and the Labour party was calling for harsher restrictions again despite all evidence from South Africa suggesting that Omicron is nothing but a super mild cold and people already being double jabbed anyway. People were terrified of another lockdown and that is why they went protesting to offer a counter voice to opposition party MPs…

As long as you realise just how selfish your last sentence is. Presumably you never expect anyone to even help you out at any cost to themselves, no matter how small?

I expect my family and friends to help me out. I don't expect the entire world around me to dance to my tune because of a fear I hold. When I was 10 years old nobody stopped smoking around me in indoor places, so now the same people who smoked all their life and ate themselves obese are afraid of my fresh super healthy fit breath? Sorry, not my problem and I honestly couldn't care less. On my list of priorities that is as far down as it could possibly be. And I don't think I'm selfish, I'm human. Everyone is selfish. It's selfish of those people to demand huge sacrifices on healthy young folks because of their own shortcomings. I'm happy to take a vaccines, which I did 3x against COVID, because it has no impact on my life, if anything it helps me, but I am not going to restrict my freedoms and lock myself at home, stop working, stop seeing family and friends and stop living life because of others.

Re: Masks on planes requirement dropped by some UK airlines

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Post by brigandish »

PaulKeeble wrote: post #17
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #9

I wonder what happens to all the conspiracy theorists who a couple of years ago said "this [the enforcement of mask wearing] is just the beginning", and that this is "exactly what Orwell predicted"? Do they admit they were wrong? Or do they conveniently forget they ever said anything like that and move onto the next conspiracy (which currently is likely to resemble toeing the Kremlin line)?

There were quite a few protests in the UK last year against the lockdowns, despite the fact there was no lockdown at the time or planned (nor did it happen) in the future. Quite a few cults seem to go past their doomsday date and simply choose another into the future. They just carry on as if the lack of the event never happened.

> despite the fact there was no lockdown at the time or planned (nor did it happen) in the future

Did you not consider the possibility that the government bowed to pressure, such as the protests, and didn't lockdown?

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