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Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by TheAceOfHearts »

exdsq wrote: post #19
romwell wrote: post #10

Ukrainian Xoogler from Odessa living in the Bay Area checking in. I stand with Ukraine. We are with you. Wrote this song a week before the war started: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdU21AoP Now it's time for me to live by these words. Last week, I went to Poland to help my 68 year old mother in law evacuate from Kyiv and cross over the Atlantic to safety. She saw the airport burn from her window. You can read her story her…

Is there any point of making these donations seeing so many billions are being sent by nation states? Is there a bottleneck where the Ukrainian Armed Forces need first aid kits but are unable to get them because of a lack of funds? I've thought about donating to these sorts of organisations but I question the actual efficiencies of doing so. Edit: I also worry that funding the continuation of this war will increase t…

Related to your line of inquiry, the Effective Altruism movement tries to answer the generalized version of some of your questions.

Unfortunately I don't know enough about this specific instance to provide a helpful answer.

The gov.ua links are probably the most effective since the Ukranian Government is highly motivated to make effective use of all the money it receives.

Maybe this is one of those cases where perfect is the enemy of the good?

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by throwaway290 »

romwell wrote: post #10

Ukrainian Xoogler from Odessa living in the Bay Area checking in. I stand with Ukraine. We are with you. Wrote this song a week before the war started: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdU21AoP Now it's time for me to live by these words. Last week, I went to Poland to help my 68 year old mother in law evacuate from Kyiv and cross over the Atlantic to safety. She saw the airport burn from her window. You can read her story her…

As a non-military option, donate to UNHCR's Ukraine program. I no longer can do that for now (Russian plastic doesn't work), but I will if this persists when I sort out my banking situation.

To support the military: https://supportukraine.cz/en.html

I would not be comfortable donating to military, but if you are in Europe you could contact your government about military support.

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by riku_iki »

metadat wrote: post #15
sydthrowaway wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Won't work because he's making $1bn/day from energy supply.

Not for long, everyone is getting off the teet of .ru oil.

Only US, EU and allies (partially), there are plenty of countries (China, India, Pakistan, Brazil, etc) who didn't join the sanctions.

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

astrange wrote: post #18
metadat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for long, everyone is getting off the teet of .ru oil.

Gas is the harder one to move off for both sides, since Germany needs it for heating and it'll take a while for them to move to selling it to China (which will turn them into China's economic colony). Not sure which one they officially make more from selling though.

Spring is coming. How much longer will Germany need gas for heat? When I've been there in April it's very mild, much more mild than here in the midwest/northeast that time of year

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by RF_Savage »

tguvot wrote: post #20
astrange wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gas is the harder one to move off for both sides, since Germany needs it for heating and it'll take a while for them to move to selling it to China (which will turn them into China's economic colony). Not sure which one they officially make more from selling though.

they already sell it to china but for lower price

60% of exports are to Europe and the pipelines feeding Europe are not connected to the one's used to transport gas to China. So a switch just cannot be flipped. It's a major infrastructure project.

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by dylan604 »

vmception wrote: post #27

I've been thinking about how to get through to more Russian people, and its something I've had a lot of success doing with many people that live in an alternate reality, where we cannot even agree on perception. Censorship and speech restrictions aside, many Russians really think this is a peacekeeping mission that has no bloodshed. Adding to frustration of Ukrainian residents calling their own family members in Russ…

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2022/03/09/russia-propagand...

Hearing how a dad trusts the state TV vs what his own son is telling him is actually going on is pretty telling.

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by riku_iki »

exdsq wrote: post #30
riku_iki wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so many billions are being sent by nation states? it is more like several hundreds millions in specific equipment.

No, this includes cash too. Look at the World Bank for one example.

I don't think World Bank finances Ukrainian Army. Also, could you share any link?

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by dylan604 »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #21
Joking_Phantom wrote: post #16

The only reason why this travesty persists is because Putin still holds the world hostage with Russia's nuclear arsenal. The only future for the world lies in cooperation, peace, and prosperity. Not this campaign of self-destruction that Putin has forced on us.

Russian emperors have a long tradition of being assassinated brutally. Putin's time might be coming due.

Lindsey Graham, is that you?

Re: Appeal to Ruby Community from Kharkiv Rubyist

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Post by trhway »

astrange wrote: post #18
metadat wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not for long, everyone is getting off the teet of .ru oil.

Gas is the harder one to move off for both sides, since Germany needs it for heating and it'll take a while for them to move to selling it to China (which will turn them into China's economic colony). Not sure which one they officially make more from selling though.

>which will turn them into China's economic colony

China has expressed interest in buying stock of large "system-forming" Russian companies which has fallen tremendously in recent days.

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