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Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

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Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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And Ukrainans believe there's a "ghost plane" in the sky that destroyed half russian air force.

It’s normal, in a war you need myths. Don’t confuse them with government propaganda.

It is propaganda. I am not sure where this notion that "in a war you need myths" comes from.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

> Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense The crackdown on non-state media, especially if it is not exactly in line with the state propaganda message, makes it harder to do that. > Especially if they also start to see a deterioration in their quality of life... A narrative that explains and places blame elsewhere for that is fairly easy with complete control of information, es…

The absence of all the former sources of non-state media should be an obvious sign to anyone with any sense at all that state media is lying.

Re: Yandex warns of bond repayment and supply risks

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Yes, nation-wide block of YouTube could work Right now the only change is that google disabled YouTube ads for russian users. Which would make me more eager to sit home and numb my mind with videos

I believe Russian authorities have blocked Facebook, Twitter, Youtube

Only Facebook and Twitter for now.

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It’s normal, in a war you need myths. Don’t confuse them with government propaganda.

It is propaganda. I am not sure where this notion that "in a war you need myths" comes from.

It's not propaganda in the same way as in Russia because the state did not make it. The notion comes from being in a war - it's absulutely terrible, disgusting experience, so people start making myths to feel some hope, and perpetuate them.

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I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

You're wrong. People getting angry at West and talking about war. Including nuclear.

It seems it depends which generation we're talking about. Younger Russians seems to be the ones most connected and thus aware of what's going on abroad, while middle aged Russians are playing the ostrich and burying their head in the sand. I saw an interview yesterday of a journalist wanting to show 50-something Russian people what's going on in Ukraine, and most of them were like "I don't want to see, get that thing away from me. It's bullshit, that's not what the news has been saying at all. I stand with Putin."

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You're wrong. People getting angry at West and talking about war. Including nuclear.

They gonna send nukes because IKEA stopped sending Billy? I'm not sure Billy will come back that way. Let's face it: Russia is illegaly invading a foreign country that is fighting back hard. The only way I see out for Russia to save itself is by sending Putin into exile and blame it all on him. Putin hoped for weakness in the west re sanctions and weapons. They play hardball and now Putin is failing. edit: I also bel…

I wonder how the Russian population would feel about Putin using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine if it looks like Russia is losing. Are they that far gone, that inhuman? If they are, what do you do about a country like that, who feels that nuking neighbors after your attempt to conquer them fails is justified? I don't believe the Russian people are that far gone.

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I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

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Or the Trump/Russia collusion story that was peddled for 4 years.

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I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin. Right now, my Russian friends tell me that state propaganda is so strong that a significant proportion of the Russian population believe the Ukranian deaths are due to Ukranians just killing themselves. Surely at some point they'll see that what they're being told doesn't make sense. Especially if they also start to see a dete…

> I believe the sanctions may well trigger a change in the Russian public's opinion of Putin.

Doesn't really matter in a dictatorship. Putin is likely to suspend the "right to vote" next and turn Russia into North Korea, officially.

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In 1930s and following world war 1… did the measure to punish Germany not result in world war 2? Don’t get me wrong, I’m very pro we should do more to help Ukraine … I feel good when I hear oligarchs are losing their super yachts… and I do not see away for the world to do business with Russia now we should be cutting oil purchases too… but really what does this do ? Does it not just further cement a people under the…

Did the measures to stop Germany and Japan after WW2 not bring us 60 years of the most peaceful days in modern history?

> not bring us 60 years of the most peaceful days in modern history?

This is a very strange historic rewriting that's popped up everywhere in the last weeks. Did the Cold War not exist? There have been wars, genocides, coups, and regime changes practically continuously, and international media has consistently reported on them. Western media just didn't highlight them because: {they didn't involve major US security interests / involved "non-white" countries that "we wouldn't expect to be peaceful anyway"}.

Ukraine is a local conflict, just like Syria was. It involved proxy wars with the same major players. But it "feels" more significant, because now it's on "our" border. It all seems so artificial.

This conflict isn't a "turning point" in history, it isn't "war returning after 70 years of peace". It's a local conflict of which there have been dozens in recent decades. World War 3 will happen much later, and won't involve these countries[0]. There is no principled or logical reason for people to care about Ukraine and not Yemen, Ethiopia, and Myanmar, expect for people caring about what the TV tells them to care about.

[0] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/george-friedman-on-wo...

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