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IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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> However, if AWS S3 goes down, your IPFS server goes down too. Unless the data has been cached somewhere, your IPFS CID links are no longer accessible. This can result in an NFT "rug pull".

Can't you just re-pin whatever files that were lost? Surely you'd keep a copy of anything that was actually important, even if just offline on a hard drive.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

#32

> However, if AWS S3 goes down, your IPFS server goes down too. Unless the data has been cached somewhere, your IPFS CID links are no longer accessible. This can result in an NFT "rug pull". Can't you just re-pin whatever files that were lost? Surely you'd keep a copy of anything that was actually important, even if just offline on a hard drive.

Sure - but you (or a pinning provider) need the actual file first before you can re-pin it. The data has to live somewhere.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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IPFS is decentralized storage. I really don't get this concept of paying someone to "decentralize" your storage when if you just want someone to pin it then there are plenty of VPS providers that provide significantly more bandwidth for less. Just setup rclone and mount a cloud drive.

"Just setup rclone and mount a cloud drive."

This reads like the infamous Dropbox comment. :)

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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This is the unresolved myth I keep seeing in web3: > "dApps that are running completely decentrelized" ENS is basically a GoDaddy-like registrar but with blockchain and with all the .eth names still controlled by 7 keyholders in a 'DAO' with four of them only needed to override control (but not totally remove) the .eth TLD. Putting in 'trust' defeats the whole purpose of 'complete decentralization' . At least with Ha…

I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being…

Zooko's triangle implies that human-meaningful names will always be contended (to a varying extent) in a decentralized system. But you don't need human-meaningful names to host your services under, only to optionally direct users to them. So an auction system seems like it should be the most appropriate for such user-facing links. Individual users can always opt for some alternative means of indexing, e.g. "petnames" chosen locally or provided by some source that they trust.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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I'm always a bit sceptic of un-incentivized solutions. Arweave seems to be a better long-term solution.

Agreed - there is no incentive layer present with vanilla IPFS. This is where Sia comes in. Hosts on the Sia network are paid using Siacoin to keep data readily available and online - they are incentivized. At Filebase, we have connected the two technologies to give us the best of both.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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Corrent me if I'm wrong, but aren't most cloud providers already providing redundancy in their EBS/equivalent setups? S3 had quite a lot of nines too

But arguably those have a single point of failure, the company owning the data. In theory Filebase is storing your data on a distributed system (that you can verify) that has no single point of failure. You can make this even more reliable by using two filebase-like providers to store the data. Thanks to IPFS you can access the data the same way and transparently use both providers so that if any single one is up you…

> Thanks to IPFS you can access the data the same way

I think this is a big feature that I hadn't recognized until you phrased it this way. It allows a strategy of guaranteeing *at least 1* pin of your data if it's important, but from the application side, you can forget about the details of the data storage.

I doubt IPFS is fast enough to justify it over other strategies today, but it makes me think of a type of cache where if a CID can't be found, you might rehydrate some slow, cold-storage data and push it back out to the network.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a fan of Handshake. The auction system is pretty much the worst system you could build for normal (ie: not rich) businesses that want to register their own names. Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Then add in the fact that it’s a judgement proof blockchain and you’ve got a system that’s awesome for squatters, flippers, and rent seekers while being…

Interesting. However: > Seriously, who wants to compete against people who have a gazillion HNS that they got for free? Or you can buy it off of them, just like you do anywhere else if you were too late to buy say, pets.com, nba.eth or .ftx/ which were all 'squatted and flipped' today. No different here and neither system aimed to totally prevent squatters, flippers and rent seekers. Because you cannot and you know t…

> Or you can buy it off of them, just like you do anywhere else

Domain squatting is a thing, is a problem, and it surprises me not at all that web3/crypto shills pretend it isn't.

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But arguably those have a single point of failure, the company owning the data. In theory Filebase is storing your data on a distributed system (that you can verify) that has no single point of failure. You can make this even more reliable by using two filebase-like providers to store the data. Thanks to IPFS you can access the data the same way and transparently use both providers so that if any single one is up you…

> Thanks to IPFS you can access the data the same way I think this is a big feature that I hadn't recognized until you phrased it this way. It allows a strategy of guaranteeing *at least 1* pin of your data if it's important, but from the application side, you can forget about the details of the data storage. I doubt IPFS is fast enough to justify it over other strategies today, but it makes me think of a type of cac…

> It allows a strategy of guaranteeing at least 1 pin of your data if it's important

Who decides your data is important?

What happens to the so-called guarantees when your data suddenly becomes unimportant?

Re: IPFS Backed by Decentralized Storage

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