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Re: Cunningham's Law

#31

Did Ward Cunningham coin this principle so that I would comment and say it's actually b.s.? :) In nature, you have an apple appear by the genetic expression of apple DNA. You don't have it by making stuff that claims to be an apple but forgot how to make apples.

Cleary, you have not had a Grapple[0].

https://www.grapplefruits.com/

Yes, I realize the irony of correcting someone in this thread ;-)

Re: Cunningham's Law

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post #13

This was one of the first things I realized in my early age on the internet. I would often post straight up wrong or wildly flawed arguments that were the opposite of my actual beliefs and when people came to respond against me with well reasoned and thorough counter arguments, I would end up using their arguments as my new arguments in real life.

This. Actually I use it frequently. Usually I follow the script: 1) Hear someone saying something I agree with. 2) Walk there and ask: "Well, have you considered..." and present a counter-argument I think is reasonably strong. 3) Listen and learn objections, sometimes asking for clarifications, pointing weaknesses or going back to 2 until I'm convinced position is consistent or the person doesn't know what is talking…

Yeah a lot of people don’t like insincerity and gamed interaction in their personal relationships.

Re: Cunningham's Law

#34
I noticed a similar thing with my own young kids: if someone asked them a question and they weren't answering out of shyness, the the surest way to get them to respond would be to suggest a wrong answer, at which point they couldn't help but correct you (which was generally enough to break the ice).

Re: Cunningham's Law

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I have started saying aloud “Someone on the internet is saying something I disagree with, and it’s making me upset”. I say this whenever I notice it happening. It immediately makes me realize how silly it is for this to take up my time, and frees me to let go and move on.

Re: Cunningham's Law

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. Actually I use it frequently. Usually I follow the script: 1) Hear someone saying something I agree with. 2) Walk there and ask: "Well, have you considered..." and present a counter-argument I think is reasonably strong. 3) Listen and learn objections, sometimes asking for clarifications, pointing weaknesses or going back to 2 until I'm convinced position is consistent or the person doesn't know what is talking…

Yeah a lot of people don’t like insincerity and gamed interaction in their personal relationships.

Hmmm... Never thought about it this way. I'd mostly seen it as if some people were unable to separate argument from the messenger.

Maybe I got so used to talk to and live with people I disagree with that I expect others to be able to handle it just like I do.

Re: Cunningham's Law

#38

A sort of interesting "corollary" to this is something I've noticed in mobile games with in-app ads for other mobile games: The best way to attract a player isn't by showing them someone playing well, it's by showing them someone playing very bad Because these ads show demo play (usually of puzzles) where the player is making obviously bad decisions, and watching it is sort of like seeing a dozen objects in a row, bu…

Man, I just don't understand people who don't use ad blocking[1]. You just wrote a whole post analyzing how you are being manipulated, causing you to feel "uneasy", "impatient", so that you almost do things that are "awful and tedious". Why do people live like this? [1] You can block ads in mobile games with a proxy that takes less than a minute to set up, at least on Android.

You should be able to understand them easily: many don’t know about the adblockers, don’t realize they’re available or haven’t learned about the benefits or don’t know or lift a finger to install them and learn to use them

Re: Cunningham's Law

#40
Only one past thread?

Cunningham's Law - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7364997 - March 2014 (107 comments)

Also, hasn't Ward disavowed coming up with it? Pretty sure I read that somewhere.

Edit: ah yes!

I never suggested asking questions by posting wrong answers. This is a misquote that disproves itself by propagating through the internet as Cunningham's Law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fclyQt6R5Dc

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