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Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by blip54321 »

dilDDoS wrote: post #14

As if the pointless prodding of “any updates? :)” is ever called for. If there were any updates, there would be fucking updates posted. I frequently get comments like this in projects they I maintain, sometimes less than a day after the issue was opened, and it does nothing but annoy me and make me not want to resolve their issue. Why is there an expectation that maintainers have infinite amounts of time to fix whate…

As someone constantly behind on their email, I like bumps for important things.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#32

Post by jaynetics »

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

That is truly terrible. My immediate reaction was that you should quit right away. However, I also feel that it wouldn't help your friends if your bosses give up on the project or let the company fail. Maybe you can an ask for donations to the cause or other types of support such as a guarantee that your friends will be able to keep their jobs?

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by [deleted] »

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

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Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#34

Post by throwamon »

dilDDoS wrote: post #14

As if the pointless prodding of “any updates? :)” is ever called for. If there were any updates, there would be fucking updates posted. I frequently get comments like this in projects they I maintain, sometimes less than a day after the issue was opened, and it does nothing but annoy me and make me not want to resolve their issue. Why is there an expectation that maintainers have infinite amounts of time to fix whate…

I agree that it's unnecessary and annoying, but it's not always useless. Some maintainers sometimes work on issues for months on end without posting any updates because they'd rather focus on the work itself, and "any updates?" comments may prompt them to talk about the progress so far.

Ideally contributors would be able to opt into automatically blocking some kinds of comments, but of course that would require a perfect "spam filter" system or manual moderation by other volunteers so that the contributor wouldn't be distracted.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#35

Post by oneepic »

dilDDoS wrote: post #14

As if the pointless prodding of “any updates? :)” is ever called for. If there were any updates, there would be fucking updates posted. I frequently get comments like this in projects they I maintain, sometimes less than a day after the issue was opened, and it does nothing but annoy me and make me not want to resolve their issue. Why is there an expectation that maintainers have infinite amounts of time to fix whate…

Of course it looks silly in this context, since the Ukraine invasion is going on. However, in general, don't forget that in some cases there are maintainers who forget, or don't have time, or fix the issue BUT forgot to post an update. These things really do happen. I don't think it's inherently malicious to ask.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by samcoppervimes »

Jenk wrote: post #21

My entire team of software engineers are Ukranian, residing in Ukraine (I'm not in Ukraine, nor am I Ukrainian). For the past few weeks our "water cooler talk" has been almost exclusively about the rising threat of invasion, if not directly about the ongoing conflict in the SE of Ukraine. A number of the team signed up for the volunteer defence force and have spent countless weekends training with the army. The morni…

You shouldn't read your employer's actions as uncaring. Ultimately it depends on where they are getting their money from. If that dries up, then there is no team anyway.

I completely see your point, but I also see the difficulty your employer has. They can't just wait for the war to finish before getting their business going again.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by horsawlarway »

dean177 wrote: post #8

“Any update on this” should just subscribe you to the issue without actually leaving the comment

I disagree.

A direct comment is a lot more useful - both because I know it's not a bot, but also because it gives me a touch point for another interested party, who might be able/interested in helping.

ex: "Any update on this" can easily be followed with "Not at the moment, we have a work in progress [here], but could use additional hands" or "We're still trying to understand all the use-cases for this, what are you trying to accomplish" or any number of other relevant and useful things.

Personally - I enjoy having some human interaction as motivation every now and then, and it's easy enough to just ignore if the answer is "I'm busy".

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

#39

Post by horsawlarway »

nohankyou wrote: post #30
belval wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know their project, but personally I don't have anything against people "bumping" a thread that has gone cold without an actual solution. I am busy and I don't take my open source project very seriously so things do fall through the cracks from time to time. EDIT: This is a small scale project and the user waited 19 days before bumping. To me that's perfectly reasonable.

The user who bumped it just created their GitHub account a couple hours ago, that person wasn't even involved in the original request.

I don't understand why that matters at all.

Re: “O, so sorry. I need more time. my country defending Russian invasion”

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Post by ziml77 »

blip54321 wrote: post #31
dilDDoS wrote: post #14

As if the pointless prodding of “any updates? :)” is ever called for. If there were any updates, there would be fucking updates posted. I frequently get comments like this in projects they I maintain, sometimes less than a day after the issue was opened, and it does nothing but annoy me and make me not want to resolve their issue. Why is there an expectation that maintainers have infinite amounts of time to fix whate…

As someone constantly behind on their email, I like bumps for important things.

Seriously, I will forget to do certain tasks or provide updates on my progress if no one follows up asking for updates. I think it's fair for someone to ask to hear if something is still in progress if it's been a while.
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