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Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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That is the only usable way for Linux Desktop on laptops after 20 years going for it.

I'm a happy native Linux desktop user for almost that long. Preferred it to windows. Let's not exaggerate about "only usable".

My experience with Linux since 1995, kind of proves otherwise, I lost track on hand holding Linux on laptops, including those sold with Linux pre-installed.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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"The ThinkPad 13s will start at $1,099 when it comes out in May." It's too expensive for an ARM device.

But Apple's aren't? I agree with you but they are pricing it relative to what they can get away with and Apple set the starting point for ARM based laptops.

How does it compare to a $999 Macbook air?

https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/

Isn't the apple device more powerful spec wise?

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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I got the T14 Gen1, basically the direct successor of the T480. What I notice is when I put the power profile to balanced it's very quiet. But of course does not power up all the way. Fast enough for my needs, but of course might not be a solution for everyone.

I was looking at T14, but I'm used to having slim laptop, s variants have been slightly powerful but lighter and with slimmer profile. The thing with M1 is that the difference with 8th gen i5 in my T480s is for some workloads 2x, if not more. And difference in some Lightroom tools is easily even more. M1 is amazing. Plus, it's quiet. I didn't know I missed silence so much. It's hard to go back now.

If you have a T480s now, why do you want to upgrade? It's quite modern.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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But Apple's aren't? I agree with you but they are pricing it relative to what they can get away with and Apple set the starting point for ARM based laptops.

Apple earned it - they don't charge you just for the laptop, it's for the entire ecosystem - For example, you can run iOS apps on Apple's ARM device. And what exactly does Lenovo bring to the table other than embedded spyware (which they've been caught in the past for)? Seriously hard to justify $1000+ for this crap. References: [1] https://www.inverse.com/innovation/36136-lenovo-settles-spyw... [2] https://www.cnbc.…

Windows also has an ecosystem, arguably made even larger with WSL2 and Android apps. This new ARM laptop is offering a fanless design and (they claim) 28 hours of battery. Don't forget that Apple have also sold plenty of "crap" laptops for four figure sums until relatively recently (e.g. customers beta testing new flawed keyboard designs).

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I was looking at T14, but I'm used to having slim laptop, s variants have been slightly powerful but lighter and with slimmer profile. The thing with M1 is that the difference with 8th gen i5 in my T480s is for some workloads 2x, if not more. And difference in some Lightroom tools is easily even more. M1 is amazing. Plus, it's quiet. I didn't know I missed silence so much. It's hard to go back now.

If you have a T480s now, why do you want to upgrade? It's quite modern.

It only takes maximum of 24GB RAM. Right now I'm ok with it but I'd like to have some future proofing at some point, everybody is going crazy with containers nowadays. I've been moving my work off the desktop and while I can upgrade NVMe as I please I'm stuck with memory limit.

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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That is the only usable way for Linux Desktop on laptops after 20 years going for it.

Exactly. WSL2 effectively makes Windows 10/11 the best Linux distro out there without all the steps of formatting, wiping and backing up disks and then installing it.

the problem with that "distro" is the window manager sucks

Re: Lenovo announces the first Arm-based ThinkPad

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Interesting. I was recently looking to upgrade my personal T480s which I use for development, but didn't see anything in Lenovo lineup that were reasonably light/powerful/quiet/cool enough to make put in the order. I've grown so sick of laptops constantly hissing at me when I do something more complicated than browsing the web. My work issued Dell is basically unusable in a quiet room without headphones. So as an imp…

My Thinkpad E14 Gen3 is quiet most of the time. My T470p is boiling my hands and the fan is constantly whirring (I still like it :)). But I agree, Apples MacBook is of a different kind. The only time I heard the fan was when playing Metro Exodus and when I ran cinebench :). My MacBook Pro outperforms every other computer in my possession. But I'm still interested in this Thinkpad, because I'm not too happy with macOS…

> Thinkpads often have terrible screens imho

True. I was not interested in Intel Macbooks because the pluses even with that great screen didn't win me over from of thinkpads but M1 has changed the game for me. The battery and performance improvements are just too good to ignore.

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