I'm surprised Apple supports custom email domains to any extent. Apple is a consumer electronics company. Hosted email on custom domains is very distinctly not a typical consumer behavior.
Apple has been moving towards services as a major part of their business for the better part of a decade now
iCloud+ custom email domains should be better
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#33tl;dr; Emails can only ever be registered with one iCloud account ever, even in the same Apple family
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#34I would say another main issue is that while they ask you to setup DKIM records, they do not actually DKIM-sign your emails. Hence your mails may be more easily flagged as spam. Several people have reported this to Apple, but AFAIK it still hasn’t been fixed.
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#36I'm surprised Apple supports custom email domains to any extent. Apple is a consumer electronics company. Hosted email on custom domains is very distinctly not a typical consumer behavior.
Me, I've experimented with migrating some of my domains from self-hosted to iCloud+, simply for the ease of management and reducing the headache from SPF, DKIM, DMARC, etc. It turns out I have a spurious DNS record that was causing all my headaches, which I had forgotten to remove from older experiments, and I didn't need to migrate to solve this.
In either case, it's a nice convenience feature. Despite the trend, and the HN-think, Apple DOES do things for power-users sometimes.
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#37I've already busted one company (I presume selling) my email address to a cloud provider for them to send me marketing material.
I emailed their privacy officer and didn't even get a reply, but that's OK, if it continues, one sieve rule and I can delete any mail that arrives on that address.
I just hope the spammers don't get so advanced they start forging other web sites addresses, maybe I'll have to move to a hashed and salted version that they can't forge.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
We just went down the rabbit hole of trying to migrate to Microsoft 365 Family with custom domain. You (officially) need to move your domain to GoDaddy, which was unfortunately a blocker for us as they don’t support our domains TLD. From what I read DKIM also isn’t offered on Family which is disappointing. Business plans get expensive quickly when you want Office apps as well.
I know they really try to sell you on GoDaddy, but it's possible to set it up with using another registrar.
I understand their target demographic here might not be super technical, so the deep integration with godaddy makes sense, but would be nice for a supported advanced user pathway too.
Re: iCloud+ custom email domains should be better
#39I would say another main issue is that while they ask you to setup DKIM records, they do not actually DKIM-sign your emails. Hence your mails may be more easily flagged as spam. Several people have reported this to Apple, but AFAIK it still hasn’t been fixed.
You're right -- this is something I missed mentioning. As of right now, it's still only the web-based iCloud Mail that makes use of DKIM. Using any other client/app will deliver your emails unsigned. Would you mind if I updated the article crediting you for the DKIM addendum?
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#40After the end of legacy G Suite was announced, I tried using iCloud+ to forward my personal domain to Gmail. However, because iCloud does not seem to support ARC for forwarding, Gmail was sending too much to Spam. I tried many other mainstream forwarding options and settled on Pobox as the best overall option, and moved my personal domain over. It's working pretty well, flowing to my regular Gmail account and having…
When I got burned by the legacy G Suite announce, I had similar bad experience with Microsoft 365 for Families. They - for some reason - only support custom domains that were registered/moved to GoDaddy (there is unsupported 3rd party guides on how to bypass checks but anyone with the requirement of stable email reachability will obviously not rely on that). Too bad you find that out after you setup your account, bil…
"Outlook.com currently does not support DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) or Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting and Conformance (DMARC)."
This is an odd oversight considering this recommendation from their commercial product:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/security/offi...
The whole m365 for families product is weirdly crippled, I assume to keep people from running their small business using the cheaper subscription?