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Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sort of how USians say "zip codes" for foreign addresses when they mean "postcodes" (the Zone Improvement Plan, from which ZIP is taken, is a US thing).

What is a usian?

American

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sort of how USians say "zip codes" for foreign addresses when they mean "postcodes" (the Zone Improvement Plan, from which ZIP is taken, is a US thing).

What is a usian?

"Citizen of the USA" is a mouthful. People tend to use "American" but that's ignoring the fact that there are 35 countries in America.

A lot of languages have a word like USian, e.g. "états-unien" (French), "estadounidense" (Spanish). I have used "USAmerican" myself when "American" would be ambiguous.

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Will someone be working through this list and speaking to each family to try to encourage them to get their son/father/brother to defect?

It's pretty useless, probably. I've read a couple of interviews with family members of the captured soldiers (for example, ¹). They don't seem to have any idea where those soldiers are and have no way to communicate with them. Although it may all be lies in an attempt to lessen their guilt, considering the rest of her speech ("he didn't know where he was going, he didn't do anything, those bad Ukrainians for taking him prisoner").

¹ https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2022/02/27/ia-ne-schitaiu-c...

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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This seems to be a positive example of doxing.

Erm ... no? Principles exist on both sides of the coin.

So you genuinely believe that doxing the Russian aggressors is a bad thing?

What principle would this go against exactly?

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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This seems to be a positive example of doxing.

Erm ... no? Principles exist on both sides of the coin.

This is asymmetric warfare. Whether or not it's "good" in a vacuum is kinda irrelevant. This may enable Ukraine and its allies to make life miserable for the soldiers holding the country under siege.

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Are their identification codes used as a shitty master password to their life too? I'd love to get to a system where your tax id was assumed to public knowledge

I think in most countries in Europe the national id number is enough to link taxes to specific people (identity card numbers are to most effects public), even though for official international documents you need to provide the accepted Tax Identification Number (TIN) which you can find in https://www.oecd.org/tax/automatic-exchange/crs-implementati... , but more as a convenience than anything else. That keeping secre…

It depends what you mean by "secret." At some point, people decided that maybe we shouldn't be willy nilly broadcasting our SSNs, e.g. it used to be your driver's license number in many states. But given how widely it's used, most people (rightly) don't assume it's a deep dark secret.

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Why would Russian military personnel have Social Security Numbers?

If they don’t have social security number (or ID) they can’t be protected by the Geneva convention

That's not true. You don't need an ID to be protected by the Geneva convention.

Re: Alleged full dump of Russian military personnel, including IDs and SSNs

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Sweden for example implements the public knowledge side of it, forcing identification to be reliable and 2FA. > The link between a person and the identity number is established through the civil registry and through identity documents and secondarily through the widespread use of the number in various contacts with authorities, businesses etc. They are necessary for personal service at banks, authorities, health care…

Useless information about the wrong country

It sounded to me like GGP was interested in hearing about any SSN that was assumed to be public knowledge, and Russia's was just the igniting spark for the question. GP makes it clear that, yes, there exists an example where the SSN is a public identifier.

GGP:

> Are their identification codes used as a shitty master password to their life too? I'd love to get to a system where your tax id was assumed to public knowledge

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