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Back in 2001/2002, I went to a series of seminars hosted by the artist Natalie Jeremijenko. One of the presenting artists had footage of the Pentagon attack, taken from a camera he had set up on the Potomac River. He refused to give anyone else access to it. "I want to think about how to best present this footage." he said. I still have never seen that footage again to this day, and the selfishness makes me angry whe…
Back in 2001/2002, I went to a series of seminars hosted by the artist Natalie Jeremijenko. One of the presenting artists had footage of the Pentagon attack, taken from a camera he had set up on the Potomac River. He refused to give anyone else access to it. "I want to think about how to best present this footage." he said. I still have never seen that footage again to this day, and the selfishness makes me angry whe…
Asked them about it recently? If not, please do.
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It's hard to believe, but new media of the September 11 attacks (and the towers before) comes out all the time. This includes rare pictures and videos. There are YouTube channels [0] specifically dedicated to finding music played on the plaza (muzak), partly inspired by Jack Taliercio's video [1], where you can hear songs being played while the attacks went down. Other channels have more mainstream videos (FOIA, NIST…
After all these years, I've still never seen a video of the Pentagon impact. Has anything come out for that?
Back in 2001/2002, I went to a series of seminars hosted by the artist Natalie Jeremijenko. One of the presenting artists had footage of the Pentagon attack, taken from a camera he had set up on the Potomac River. He refused to give anyone else access to it. "I want to think about how to best present this footage." he said. I still have never seen that footage again to this day, and the selfishness makes me angry whe…
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The two other videos that got posted alongside this one makes me think it was a "forgotten tape that just got digitized" type of deal. However, I can also see there being an element of trauma and just not wanting to revisit the footage on purpose. I know I have some pictures I never want to look at again, although nothing on this scale.
As someone who watched the second plane hit live on CNN, it was... hard. People who weren't alive or were otherwise busy that morning don't remember the uncertainty after the first plane. Everyone thought it was an accident. No one could conceive it was a deliberate strike. Everyone knew terrorists hijacked airplanes to fly to third world countries, not to commit suicide into buildings. That cognitive dissonance all…
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The two other videos that got posted alongside this one makes me think it was a "forgotten tape that just got digitized" type of deal. However, I can also see there being an element of trauma and just not wanting to revisit the footage on purpose. I know I have some pictures I never want to look at again, although nothing on this scale.
As someone who watched the second plane hit live on CNN, it was... hard. People who weren't alive or were otherwise busy that morning don't remember the uncertainty after the first plane. Everyone thought it was an accident. No one could conceive it was a deliberate strike. Everyone knew terrorists hijacked airplanes to fly to third world countries, not to commit suicide into buildings. That cognitive dissonance all…
Second plane
Back in 2001/2002, I went to a series of seminars hosted by the artist Natalie Jeremijenko. One of the presenting artists had footage of the Pentagon attack, taken from a camera he had set up on the Potomac River. He refused to give anyone else access to it. "I want to think about how to best present this footage." he said. I still have never seen that footage again to this day, and the selfishness makes me angry whe…
Could simply have been a hoax, to attract attention. (Having the video, I mean, not the attack).
I'll just say this: many here are convinced our AI overlords have landed and we'll soon all be out of jobs and deepfakes are undistinguishable from the real thing. So I'll say this: if you believe AI is advanced, then in 2022 it's not possible to take this video for granted and you have to take into account that all evidence surfacing from now may be deepfakes. I'm not saying they are: I'm saying you have to keep tha…
I was in seventh grade when all this went down. It was around the time that they first started putting TVs in classrooms. The teacher flipped the channel to the news when it was announced that an accident occurred and a plane flew into the WTC. Then they kept coming live on TV. In subsequent days I listened to final phone calls between people and their families. The internet was so congested I could barely use it, and a huge part of that was because of services provided out of the WTC.
It is well documented through declassified documents that were written two decades ago that these were Saudi nationals who had moved to America under the guise of learning to fly. They were aided by Al Qaeda and "happenstance" Saudi officials. Osama Bin Laden was a Saudi national, the leader, and one of the founding members of Al Qaeda.
These are barebone facts. Please do not encourage further mythology around 9/11 - the kind of Loose Change-esque rhetoric that is obviously designed more for entertainment than actual productivity. 9/11 happened, everyone saw it, and a new angle isn't anything groundbreaking, therefore there's zero reason to fake it. It won't change our relationship with the Saudis, it won't bring us back into war, etc
Definitely a new angle, but it’s also strange after so many years to find good footage like this. The random extra stuff at the end make it feel very genuinely “found an old miniDV tape with some footage of forgotten about.” But it’s also just really weird to hear people talking so clearly the moment after it happens. It’s preserved a slightly surreal moment of shock quite well.
The two other videos that got posted alongside this one makes me think it was a "forgotten tape that just got digitized" type of deal. However, I can also see there being an element of trauma and just not wanting to revisit the footage on purpose. I know I have some pictures I never want to look at again, although nothing on this scale.