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Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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One note, in some cities the parking folks don't talk to police, so if your car is stolen you can start checking for tickets. This used to result in pretty quick hits. I had my car stolen 3 times and recovered it each time, unfortunately in progressively worse condition. Once I found folks in it. Cops said basically nothing would happen to them if I tried to pursue anything so I didn't do anything because they were i…

You guys really need to move to nicer areas.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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Some people don't know that you absolutely are allowed to take back your stolen property. You don't need to involve the police unless you want to. Repo folks do this all the time. Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car. If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so. Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far. They usually can't pursue a speeding car anymor…

Question: someone steals your car and you go to take it back. When you drive off with it, the thief's backpack/laptop/etc. are in the back seat. Can you now be prosecuted for theft? Obviously most people wouldn't want to hang around long enough to fully inspect the vehicle to make sure they're not taking anything that doesn't belong to them! My inkling, as a former lawyer, is that this would not be theft if you didn'…

> When you drive off with it, the thief's backpack/laptop/etc. are in the back seat.

Or even much worse, and you get blamed for the item and go to prison.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

#33
I fortunately never had personal experience with this, but around here (central europe) car thieves often steal car and then just park it in some neutral place to let it "cool down" for couple of days - if it contains any tracking devices owner will get it and they will not reveal their garage. There are facebook groups where people post details of their stolen cars and people report if they see them parked somewhere. If this is the case, tracking device may be quite helpful.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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Some people don't know that you absolutely are allowed to take back your stolen property. You don't need to involve the police unless you want to. Repo folks do this all the time. Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car. If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so. Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far. They usually can't pursue a speeding car anymor…

> Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car.

Tracking a stole vehicle is definitely one of the best use for an Airtag. If someone steals your car, any guy with an Apple product around the street is helping you to find it.

IMO in the near future car manufacturers will integrate Find My technology into the car electronics, just as some of them already do with Apple car keys.

> If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so.

I'm more doubtful on this. Better to let the police handle such potentially dangerous situations.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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Some people don't know that you absolutely are allowed to take back your stolen property. You don't need to involve the police unless you want to. Repo folks do this all the time. Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car. If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so. Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far. They usually can't pursue a speeding car anymor…

Question: someone steals your car and you go to take it back. When you drive off with it, the thief's backpack/laptop/etc. are in the back seat. Can you now be prosecuted for theft? Obviously most people wouldn't want to hang around long enough to fully inspect the vehicle to make sure they're not taking anything that doesn't belong to them! My inkling, as a former lawyer, is that this would not be theft if you didn'…

> My inkling, as a former lawyer, is that this would not be theft if you didn't know the item was there

Not theft, but still conversion. The thief could sue you for the value of the items. When a car is repossessed the chattels (personal items) have to be returned to avoid liability. There is case law establishing that if you tell the repo agent you have stuff in the trunk and he drives off anyway, that's prima facie conversion (monetary liability) regardless of whether they try to return the items later.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

#39
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Some people don't know that you absolutely are allowed to take back your stolen property. You don't need to involve the police unless you want to. Repo folks do this all the time. Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car. If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so. Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far. They usually can't pursue a speeding car anymor…

>Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far.

This really varies widely by location.

The local police in my sleepy suburb will go full DEFCON 1 if they know a stolen car is in the area. They don't have a lot to do...

It might be worth seeing what the locals are or aren't willing to do.

Re: Car stolen with homemade GPS tracker in backseat

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Some people don't know that you absolutely are allowed to take back your stolen property. You don't need to involve the police unless you want to. Repo folks do this all the time. Keep an extra key for your car at home and put an Airtag in your car. If it's stolen, just go get it back when it's safe to do so. Calling the police in most American cities won't get you far. They usually can't pursue a speeding car anymor…

are you allowed to show up armed, in case they are waiting for you? If you end up in a shootout, will you be considered the aggressor? Seems dangerous to me
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