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Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by TameAntelope »

altdataseller wrote: post #11
jdkjs wrote: post #2

What is SimilarWeb and how do they know that? Because I have a hunch that they are pulling the numbers out of their asses just so they are mentioned in articles from shitty blogs like this one.

They have a bunch of Chrome extensions that spy on what users are visiting online, and use that data to sell their product to marketers. Personally think Google should get rid of them as they are a travesty to online privacy.

Is it a travesty to online privacy if you have to opt into their tracking?

At some point I should be allowed to trade my personal information in exchange for goods or services, isn't that the whole point of me "owning" my information?

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by vkou »

sp332 wrote: post #17
vkou wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is keeping the most popular podcast in the world on its platform, despite the host breaking Spotify's TOS on the subject of COVID misinformation.

Not just keeping, but paid $100 million for exclusivity.

Well, yes, there's all that money, too, that makes dropping him rather expensive.

Unfortunately, it seems that I'm being karmically silenced for speaking an uncomfortable truth - that I've done my research[1] on!

[1] About 2 minutes of googling sources that tell me what I want to hear.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by mcdonje »

taf2 wrote: post #3

i just signed up. what's wrong with spotify?

The main news item right now is about Joe Rogan disseminating misinformation about the pandemic, and saying racist things.

Besides that, they're known for paying comparatively little per stream to musicians.

They also engage in rent-seeking behavior. Their strategy around podcasts is to get exclusives, which they can do better than smaller players because of their market position, and it's money they're not spending on improving their platform.

They also refuse allowing users to add podcasts via RSS like pretty much all other podcast services. It's common for podcasters to provide upgraded feeds with extra episodes for people who support them on Patreon. There's no way to connect to those on Spotify. The reason they don't allow that is they're trying to push their own solution for that. Again, abusing market position instead of making a good product.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by bmarquez »

altdataseller wrote: post #11
jdkjs wrote: post #2

What is SimilarWeb and how do they know that? Because I have a hunch that they are pulling the numbers out of their asses just so they are mentioned in articles from shitty blogs like this one.

They have a bunch of Chrome extensions that spy on what users are visiting online, and use that data to sell their product to marketers. Personally think Google should get rid of them as they are a travesty to online privacy.

I'd like to know what these Chrome extensions are to ensure they'll never be installed on any computer I use. Unfortunately I can't find a list anywhere, which seems really scammy.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by vkou »

nomel wrote: post #28
vkou wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is keeping the most popular podcast in the world on its platform, despite the host breaking Spotify's TOS on the subject of COVID misinformation.

> host breaking Spotify's TOS Do you have a reference for this? I've been following this very closely, and this is the first time I've heard he broke the TOS.

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2022-01-30/spotify-platform-rul...

> Content that promotes dangerous false or dangerous deceptive medical information that may cause offline harm or poses a direct threat to public health

His ivermectin/vaccine stuff breaks the TOS.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by mdoms »

That seems like a very small increase to a page that presumably sees little traffic. Sounds like they're committing the base rate fallacy[0] where large percentage increases correspond to small absolute numbers.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_rate_fallacy

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by lucis »

On my social bubble, an impressive amount of people have cancelled their premium accounts.

I had a friend who had always recommended me trying out Youtube Music for their recommendation and I used the opportunity to switch, not looking back.. Somehow, Youtube Premium + Music for family is cheaper than Spotify Premium for family.

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by mackrevinack »

taf2 wrote: post #3

i just signed up. what's wrong with spotify?

ive been using and paying for spotify for over a decade and im not going to renew my subscription when it ends later this month.

nothing major though, just a mix of having podcasts shoved in my face when i don't want anything to do with them, songs disappearing (not completely spotify's problem i suppose), not having certain songs in the first place, and the effort involved in downloading songs so i can have offline access (which is a bit of a pain when you have multiple devices and change them often)

i also used to tell myself i couldn't afford all the music i wanted to listen to, but adding up the money i have given spotify over the last decade im thinking maybe i could have bought a decent chunk of it. so that's what in going to start doing.

you could probably find lots more reasons if you search online. spotify paying people peanuts etc etc

Re: Spotify sees spike in traffic to cancellation page: 196% week-on-week

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Post by nomel »

vkou wrote: post #36
nomel wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> host breaking Spotify's TOS Do you have a reference for this? I've been following this very closely, and this is the first time I've heard he broke the TOS.

https://newsroom.spotify.com/2022-01-30/spotify-platform-rul... > Content that promotes dangerous false or dangerous deceptive medical information that may cause offline harm or poses a direct threat to public health His ivermectin/vaccine stuff breaks the TOS.

I guess that depends on ones definition of "promotes" and even "false". And, "deceptive" requires intent. I imagine this is up for some interpretation.
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