Live data from Hacker News

Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

reuters.com

31–40 of 444 posts

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#31
FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#32
post #27
post #11

Twitter has been an absolute mess over the last few years. Through the explore tab, they aggressively promote topics that I have no interest in: k-pop, fashion, reality TV, telenovelas and birthdays. And there's no way to tell them that I don't really care about those topics, you can't even hide them. The trending topics used to be a very good way to know what's happening. Being the pulse of the planet was achieved.…

> you can't even hide them I changed my trends location to Tokyo on someone's recommendation, and it's been a great workaround. I don't speak Japanese, so it's the same as 'hiding' the trends to my brain. (I think the way to do this is 'Explore' -> gear icon, at least on desktop.)

Burundi or Anguila are also good choices

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#33
post #22

It beggars belief that people don't think the numbers from any of these companies are completely fraudulent. Has anyone been on Twitter? Bots, spam, etc.

I use twitter daily and I believe most of the content I see is real people? Perhaps that's just based on who I follow so I don't have the same experience as you.

I think it depends on the topic. I don't think you will find many sockpuppet accounts when you are talking about some CS programming framework... but you want to talk about politics? Its where the culture war is being waged.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#34
post #15
post #5

Is there some reason articles like this doesn't include profits? Revenue is specified along with a number of other key metrics, but not profit. The overall conclusion seems to be the same as with Meta last week: It's going well, but not as well as predicted. The slower than expected growth is only a problem, because the stock market likes predictability and will punish any company unable to correctly foresee the futu…

Profit isn't very meaningful without a lot of context. A growing business could plow all of their would-be profits back into growing their business, making it look like they are losing money. Or a failing business could cannibalize itself to get a couple quarters of profits at the cost of destroying its long term prospects for success. Revenue is a much more concrete figure that sort of tells its own story, unlike pr…

> Revenue is a much more concrete figure that sort of tells its own story, unlike profit.

But if you look at a company that is always in the red with no plan to become profitable, the question becomes:

- how is this a business?

- where is money coming from?

- why is money still coming?

Twitter seems to be mostly profitable in the past few years.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#35
post #26

I feel so naive / out-of-touch when Twitter comes up. How is it we don't have a simple micro-blogging protocol. Like we do for email. Twitter didn't invent it, neither did Unix for that matter. Twtxt and others are doing some great things, but why don't we move from innovation to standardized protocols to enhance the user experience of the internet. Is it just great marketing driven by profits. As I said, I'm probabl…

I believe we do: it's called ActivityPub[1], and it's what Mastodon and others use.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#36
I actually still get a pretty decent experience out of Twitter. The only topic I really engage with is remote work.. I don’t follow very many people (only humans who post real content) and unfollow anyone who goes “off topic”. Which is too bad, but it keeps my feed simple and sane.

I feel like Twitter would be way better if people had different topics you could subscribe (or not) to.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#37
post #26

I feel so naive / out-of-touch when Twitter comes up. How is it we don't have a simple micro-blogging protocol. Like we do for email. Twitter didn't invent it, neither did Unix for that matter. Twtxt and others are doing some great things, but why don't we move from innovation to standardized protocols to enhance the user experience of the internet. Is it just great marketing driven by profits. As I said, I'm probabl…

Open source creates a superior product, technically and morally. Silicon valley creates a more addicting product.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#40
The funny thing about all these articles about missed growth is that all the mission statements are just arbitrary numbers. Spotify, Twitter, Facebook none of them said anything about building something new or trying to be the best at something, nope. "Our Mission is XXX with YYY growth trajectory."
Post reply on HN