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The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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Hicks has been dead for almost 30 years. Its not fair to say who he’d vote for today.

He was also preforming in the early 90s where Bush Sr. was conducting a stupid war that set the stage for our current collapse and imperial hubris.

Im a staunch Republican, but Im not going to pretend that the Bushes werent a curse and half of Reagan’s team were too (the other half got purged by Bush until the Pauls helped revive them).

If you want to hear Hicks skewer Democrats, Im sure Ive heard him going on about Tipper.

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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When he was alive he was much more appreciated in the UK than in the US. Good to see that the US is catching on.

In the South, where he’s from, I feel that people know him. There’s been a poster of him and other comedy greats in Midtown ATL at the Vortex since at least the mid naughts.

In the North East I haven't met anyone who knows him; I find “Yankees” to be living up to their puritan killjoy reputation. I love them, but man its harder to joke around with them.

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That seems fairly reductive for such a wide breadth of work and influence, especially given the context that the US is and always has been essentially a two-party system. In such a system you’re either one, the other, or irrelevant.

Reductive is an understatement, it's basically trolling (or extreme bias, which is indistinguishable).

Bill Hicks died at 32, in 1994, so he lived through 12 years straight of Republicans ('81-'93), and presumably thought maybe Bill Clinton and the Democrats would be different. Had he lived longer, I'm sure he would have been as salty about the Democrats being liars, too. Just like those who lived through 8 years of G.W. Bush in their formative years probably thought that Obama would be much different, with all of the propaganda about hope & change, etc.

Chomsky still telling people to strategically vote for Democrats vs. starting a new party (like the People's Party[0], a populist-focused, anti-corporate party) is pretty inexcusable, though, but that's beside the point.

If you like Bill Hicks' far left view, you might like Jimmy Dore [1], too. Though he's more of a "pothead club comedian".

0- https://peoplesparty.org/

1- https://www.youtube.com/user/TYTComedy

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

#36

When he was alive he was much more appreciated in the UK than in the US. Good to see that the US is catching on.

Yep, he's got iconic status in the UK for those of a certain age.

It's also quite shocking for those of that age to look back and realise he died at 32!

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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post #10

Sometimes I find these kinds of link submissions pretty baffling. "Here's a nearly 30 year old article about a dead comedian!" Thanks, I guess. But also: why? Why this arbitrary New Yorker article, as opposed to any other article written in the last three decades?

Bill Hicks saw what most 30 years ago wouldn't and that has become painfully obvious today.

- The war on drugs

- Imperial hubris

- Safetism

The foresight of Hicks is evident by the fact that most Republican voters agree with Hicks on these issues; the last two maybe more than Democrat voters - at least the ones who havent been purged by the neoliberals (Tulsi, we love you!).

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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post #20

>On October 1st, the comedian Bill Hicks, after doing his twelfth gig on the David Letterman show, became the first comedy act to be censored at CBS’s Ed Sullivan Theatre, where Letterman is now in residence, and where Elvis Presley was famously censored in 1956. Presley was not allowed to be shown from the waist down. Hicks was not allowed to be shown at all. It’s not what’s in Hicks’ pants but what’s in his head th…

but but but but its not censorship if the givernment is not doing iiiiit

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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Why does Chomsky boil down to that? Most of what he advocates is organisation and activism, which I don't think boils down to voting Democrat - perhaps it does if you think the only impactful thing an American citizen can do is vote, but that is plainly enough false.

Re: The Goat Boy Rises (1993)

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post #6

Bill Hicks was right about advertising.

He was right about the out-of-control American war machine, too.

Without diminishing Bill, many have called this out for a long time. I blame the ever-bloodthirsty corporate media complex. They even applauded their avowed arch-enemy Trump as soon as he decided to lob a few missiles into Syria, that should tell you something.
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