A lot of pre-COVID episodes deleted meanwhile recent controversial COVID episodes remain.
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Spotify deletes 70 Joe Rogan episodes
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#32Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…
So, it’s pretty serious. Spotify is paying Joe Rogan to broadcast disinformation that is getting people killed. I think it’s okay in this case if people have a sudden change of opinion or a newly formed strong opinion. He didn’t crack an off color joke.
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#33Remember all those times you have seen gaslighting ideologues saying "nobody is actually calling for [canceling/deleting/censorship]", remember how they couch any argument with "private company can do what it wants". I don't care about Joe Rogan in particular, but you're deluding yourself if you think there isn't some relevance here. A lot of people now suddenly hate Joe, the same way they hate Jordan Peterson, the s…
This is a private company paying him $100 million dollars to be exclusively on their platform. If he had kept doing his podcast instead of whatever you call what he does now podcast in name only he couldn’t have been banned.
Even if he was removed from the popular podcasts directories, all of the real podcast players allow you to subscribe by entering a URL to an RSS feed. He took the money. He knew what he was getting into.
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#34Podcasting 2.0 is one of the likely answers to this. In the meantime, I'm sure a lot of people will cancel their accounts on Spotify.
Joe Rogan signed an exclusive deal with Spotify - which appears to be the opposite of what Podcasting 2.0 represents.
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#35Blockchain fixes this. But on a serious note, podcasting was originally just mp3 files freely distributed to be played on ipods. It's anathema to ever have a centralized platform like Spotify hoarding exclusive rights and control.
Blockchain et al allow the government complete visibility into any transaction. It provides a tool for complete gov control.
Privacy blockchains like Monero/ZCash/etc prevent this using technologies like RingCT/zk-SNARKS/etc.
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#38I think Joe Rogan is an idiot. But, if anything, Spotify should have just posted a disclaimer somewhere stating these aren’t their views, with some links to reputable sources - even their own “Science Vs” podcast. It’s not like now the people who believed what he was saying are going to shrug their shoulders and start reading the “New England Journal of Medicine”.
And grant a clear copyright use of the audio to people to produce commentary style rebuttals?
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#39Where can I find a backup so I can archive them and upload them to bittorrent?
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#40Seems like this is just a gradual push to a complete ban in my estimation. Half measures will only annoy both pro and anti Rogan factions.
It'll be ineffective. He'll probably just move to something like Rumble that will just ignore all the smear pieces. Guy is popular enough that his audience will follow him, so now there's blood in the water Spotify is in a no win situation