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Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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Is it really disgusting ? Google stock rose 65% in 2021. Unless you are working at the cafeteria, the recent inflation had little impact on the compensation of Google employees.

So by that logic execs certainly didn't need an increase in salary?

Did they get a salary increase? Or did their equity just go up like everyone else?

Executives tend to have salaries that are a fraction of total comp.

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So by that logic execs certainly didn't need an increase in salary?

Did they get a salary increase? Or did their equity just go up like everyone else? Executives tend to have salaries that are a fraction of total comp.

I mean, it's literally the second sentence of the article we're discussing...

>The Mountain View, CA-based company will be raising the salaries of four execs from $650,000 to $1 million...

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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> worst inflationary periods in 100 years I don't completely disagree with you, but c'mon this is hyperbole, right? https://advisor.visualcapitalist.com/inflation-over-last-100...

There's something hilarious about nitpicking a statistic out of a comment that's nothing but an unhinged rant.

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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The employees have a lot of unvested stock most of the time, so they very much get to benefit from the stock price growth.

To counter this, they also suffer lockout periods. Employees typically have a short amount of time to figure out their strategy before being stuck for two months or longer. Employees only get to plan in the macro. They can go long or short, not respond to real economic events, opportunities, or headwinds.

Having multiple windows each year to sell your stock/options at fair market prices is a luxury that very, very few people working at startups gets. This is a ridiculous thing to complain about. For the vast majority of people having 4 trading windows per year is more than enough to adjust their portfolio based on their financial strategy.

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they get a salary increase? Or did their equity just go up like everyone else? Executives tend to have salaries that are a fraction of total comp.

I mean, it's literally the second sentence of the article we're discussing... >The Mountain View, CA-based company will be raising the salaries of four execs from $650,000 to $1 million...

Sure, but "They also received stock awards valued at between $23 million and $35 million, split between performance-based equity and stock that vests over time, the filing states.".

That $350,000 doesn't even move the needle? Why is the focus there?

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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They didn't decline to boost employee pay -- they declined to make an across the board COL adjustment. Instead they will build the COL adjustment into each person's annual raise along with a performance bonus. You're only hearing about these guys because they are required to report it in their SEC filings.

I'm not sure the exact breakdown of their rewards, but baking a COL adjustment and a merit increase in a single number doesn't really count. Makes it way too easy to reduce pay increases.

That's sort of the point. They want to pay underperformers less in the hopes that they leave, while paying overperformers more to make sure they stay.

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Is it really disgusting ? Google stock rose 65% in 2021. Unless you are working at the cafeteria, the recent inflation had little impact on the compensation of Google employees.

Am I to understand that the minions who clean toilets and garden and serve food continue to be outsourced so Mr Google can say it doesn't exploit its workforce?

Mountain View paradise has an underclass?

Re: Google gives execs raises after declining to boost employees' pay

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They didn't decline to boost employee pay -- they declined to make an across the board COL adjustment. Instead they will build the COL adjustment into each person's annual raise along with a performance bonus. You're only hearing about these guys because they are required to report it in their SEC filings.

I'm not sure the exact breakdown of their rewards, but baking a COL adjustment and a merit increase in a single number doesn't really count. Makes it way too easy to reduce pay increases.

Mostly it gives them the ability to effectively cut the pay of those whose performance they don't value, by giving them increases smaller than inflation.
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