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I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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Article looks and sounds like clickbait. One of the fundamental aspects of starlink is the internet access and speed you will get. That doesn't seem to be covered here. You took down your starlink because you couldn't transfer it to someone else, are afraid of the damage starlink is doing to astronomy, and you don't like the design decisions about the new dish that you don't even have? Sorry, this doesn't make any se…

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Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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I've had Starlink in Rural AR for 10 months now. I have it currently set to "failover only" on my Ubiquiti device, as it's snowing sideways and there is a tremendous (read: 30%) amount of packet loss at the moment. I don't yet know how to do automatic failover due to packet loss on a UBNT device, but that's what I'm looking up this afternoon. Anyways - I have 3 ISPs, with two of them being LTE. One is the unlimited A…

It sounds like you have a nifty setup, but I’m surprised you would consider such a high price for your third connection. Why is it worth so much in your case? For the price, you’re approaching the amortized cost of burying miles of cable, which could be an option for people who are only a short distance from wired infrastructure.

Well, if I can get my cost for the premium Starlink to $200, I would drop the TMO home internet.

Right now I'm paying $99 for Starlink, $23/mo ATT, $50/mo TMO. Hardware costs were $450 for the router and LTE modem (EM160g) and roughly the same for (what I know know to be the gen 1) Starlink.

I had no idea they rolled out a gen 2 Starlink that's even more restricted than the first one. Ah well.

When I was in NORCAL and wired, I was on business internet that was $190/mo, so that's about what I'm accustomed to.

I have no idea what it would cost to wire my house. I'm miles from any infrastructure.

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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I get it. If you already have internet, then Starlink is not for you. There are lots of questionable design choices (particularly in version 2), it's picky about placement, etc. etc. But if your other choice is HughesNet or its competitors, that throttles you after 15 GB (2 days of non-streaming usage for me), or 50 GB, the Starlink "shortcomings" are irrelevant. With Starlink, if you can get it, and if you can site…

My biggest gripe is the fact I can't transfer it to my cousin, who lives on a farm with 300 Kbps DSL, 70 miles away. Back when preorders started, it wasn't obvious how slow Starlink would be to expand, and it also wasn't obvious transfers wouldn't be a supported feature for many months. Even so, my cousin also signed up in hopes to get Starlink, and 11 months later her date was moved from 'late 2021' to 'late 2022'.…

What's the point of satellite internet if you can't move the dish around? That would seem to be one of the USPs...

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

#35
post #8

Article looks and sounds like clickbait. One of the fundamental aspects of starlink is the internet access and speed you will get. That doesn't seem to be covered here. You took down your starlink because you couldn't transfer it to someone else, are afraid of the damage starlink is doing to astronomy, and you don't like the design decisions about the new dish that you don't even have? Sorry, this doesn't make any se…

Another tell is that the performer in the video assumes an exaggerated facial expression for the thumbnail image, a common practice in click bait videos.

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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“Then there are other people reading who think he's the commensurate con-man” Does anyone actually think this about Elon? Think what you will about the guy’s persona, but it seems undeniable that he is doing big things in the world (and outside of it).

Elon isn't a con man because he actually delivers but there is a streak running through him that doesn't seem to care if he deceives people as long as he reaches his higher goals.

He's not a 'nice guy' in my book.

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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post #8

Article looks and sounds like clickbait. One of the fundamental aspects of starlink is the internet access and speed you will get. That doesn't seem to be covered here. You took down your starlink because you couldn't transfer it to someone else, are afraid of the damage starlink is doing to astronomy, and you don't like the design decisions about the new dish that you don't even have? Sorry, this doesn't make any se…

I agree, it's very "SEE THIS INSANE DESIGN FLAW IN STARLINK"-esque. And the design flaw is "They elected to use weather-proof proprietary connectors, instead of letting me crimp my own CAT6

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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$240 per month for internet, wow. I didn't realise things were that expensive for people living in remote areas. I'm currently paying ~$40 (converted from EUR) per month for a 100Mb/s fiber connection.

We pay 180 USD a month for a phone line and DSL from Century Link. This connection is 1.5 mbps down and 500 kbps up in practice (advertised speeds are higher). Starlink has been a game changer for us.

> 180 USD

Damn... hope your wages make up for this man.

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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post #11

I've had Starlink in Rural AR for 10 months now. I have it currently set to "failover only" on my Ubiquiti device, as it's snowing sideways and there is a tremendous (read: 30%) amount of packet loss at the moment. I don't yet know how to do automatic failover due to packet loss on a UBNT device, but that's what I'm looking up this afternoon. Anyways - I have 3 ISPs, with two of them being LTE. One is the unlimited A…

If you're running an Edgerouter I imagine you could have something setup externally to measure packet loss and then if it gets high enough automatically SSH into the router and force it to failover. Of course you'd also have to setup some sort of routing scheme so the external system could then return back to the connection when packet loss went down.

Re: I took down my Starlink dish (but haven't cancelled)

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That's not correct. I haven't quite got all the way through the article, but yeah - not correct. It has wifi that you use to manage it, but it also has an ethernet port that you can use. I have it as one of 3 internet devices at my home in rural Arkansas. I would turn off the wifi entirely, if they allowed me, for less interference. The cable is kind of a bummer, but at least it's super high quality. I wasn't too hap…

That's how the first version router was (the one I have). The new 2nd gen router has WiFi (ac), but Ethernet is not built in. You have to buy an extra dongle that costs $20 and goes inline to the dish. The new router does have a bypass mode, so you can get around using it at all (though it still needs to be plugged in as it's the PoE source through the proprietary cable). The reset method is a bit weird, since it doe…

I had no idea they launched a v2. I wonder why they would regress so much. The obvious answer is cost... but they have to know how much people want good internet service in remote areas, right? I'll pay for it and I know I'm not the only one.
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