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EU based cloud services always could compete before. Now they will compete on the basis of being in the EU instead of being better.
All of this is similar to what China did back in the day. It helped foster an ecosystem for their own services, but of course they were (and are) of a lower quality.
> All of this is similar to what China did back in the day. In what way is it similar, I'm not seeing it? When did China introduce something like GDPR and how did it help foster an ecosystem of their own services?
Now they have pushed something very similar to the GDPR. More info about these two things here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_China#L...
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But this is only viable for very large companies.
This means US government should pass laws to protect EU citizens data, if they feel generous they could apply it to every person regardless of his citizenship,
All of this is similar to what China did back in the day. It helped foster an ecosystem for their own services, but of course they were (and are) of a lower quality.
All of this is similar to what China did back in the day. It helped foster an ecosystem for their own services, but of course they were (and are) of a lower quality.
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The part in most curious about is not even the usual web services we talk about here, but who will be the new big pipe provider in the EU. Who can compete with CloudFlare / Fastly / Akamai / Maxcdn with the raw bandwidth of DDoS that they can sink in their network. Anyone apart from Gcore labs?
The part in most curious about is not even the usual web services we talk about here, but who will be the new big pipe provider in the EU. Who can compete with CloudFlare / Fastly / Akamai / Maxcdn with the raw bandwidth of DDoS that they can sink in their network. Anyone apart from Gcore labs?
European ISPs with Tier-1 capabilities: Sweden's Arelion (prev. Telia Carrier), Telecom Italia's Sparkle, T-Systems (part of Deustche Telekom), France's Orange, and the business and carrier division of Telefonica.
Webhosting with demonstrated capabilities are another one: I can only name OVH to be frank. Iliad (dba Scaleway) has good European connections but not global, and Hetzner while a capable hoster is not that invested outside of Germany.
This is already affecting websites and web apps. At least all of our customers are moving away from Google Analytics and many try to also get rid of other Google services like fonts and maps. I'm very interested to see what this changes in other european countries.
Analytics and fonts shouldn't be too hard. What about Captcha?
It's not EU based, but at least it's not Google, and the service is privacy oriented...
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> All of this is similar to what China did back in the day. In what way is it similar, I'm not seeing it? When did China introduce something like GDPR and how did it help foster an ecosystem of their own services?
At first, western services were banned using laws similar to what some countries in the EU have (like how some tweets are unavailable in some European countries for disputing the holocaust, etc). Also: https://www.euronews.com/2022/01/26/germany-considers-bannin... Now they have pushed something very similar to the GDPR. More info about these two things here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_China…
EU based companies will not be allowed to mine US customers the same way.