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Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto »

dijit wrote: post #14
rosndo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. Wow. Crazy! This has literally never happened before.

I might describe as an Apple product enjoyer; certainly not a hater and everyone seems so polarised. But objectively: monopoly is a bad thing. We’re still recovering from Microsoft’s dominance of desktop computing. Once you have a near monopoly it’s practically impregnable to disintegrate. As you have a wealthy company which is actively harming those efforts.

Objectivity, monopoly is not a bad thing. Even the law doesn’t consider monopoly a problem in itself,

Abuse of monopoly is a problem.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by thewarrior »

bigtones wrote: post #25

Their huge China derived revenue is an increasing problem for Apple from a company stance perspective. They have to increasingly walk a tightrope between servicing that market, kowtowing to the Chinese government, and upholding the values of a California based US Company.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

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Post by zamadatix »

MattGaiser wrote: post #17
mensetmanusman wrote: post #8

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Microsoft is probably 90% of computers already for everyone.

~20 years ago this was true (for the US at least, and they had run into antitrust problems as a result) but nowadays it's more like 75%. ChromeOS is very popular in K-12 and macOS is decently common in University/Tech and not unheard of for the average consumer either. Traditional Linux is still marginal. This is only counting traditional desktop computing.

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Post by zepto »

idle_zealot wrote: post #23
paxys wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does Apple control communication on an iPhone? And the only thing this "regulation" will do is shift control over to the government, which is worse in every way.

> How does Apple control communication on an iPhone? They control what messaging apps you are allowed to install on your iPhone.

And their policies around communications apps clearly aren’t abusive.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by avalys »

zepto wrote: post #27
mensetmanusman wrote: post #8

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

If you care about communications platforms, Facebook what you should care about. Future concerns about what Apple might do in future are nothing by comparison.

Give me a break. Those teens can choose between Twitter, Youtube, Discord, iMessage, Signal, Telegram, TikTok, Reddit, Twitch, along with, you know, the rest of the public internet.

But 90% of them will still be doing all of this on an Apple device. Yet you think Facebook is the company to worry about, not Apple?

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto »

ravenstine wrote: post #29
idle_zealot wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How does Apple control communication on an iPhone? They control what messaging apps you are allowed to install on your iPhone.

And what browser engine you're allowed to use and, thereby, the extent to which you can control your web experience. Then there's the App Store being both a point of control, a burden on developers, and highway robbery with Apple's 30% cut.

Easily avoided if you care, by simply buying Android. Apple can’t stop that.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by jhickok »

jb1991 wrote: post #4
carlycue wrote: post #2

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Just wish the quality control was the same as in the Jobs era.

I haven't had issues with hardware other than the butterfly keyboard, but I have been astounded at issues with first-party software. For the last 48 hours podcasts have just not worked on my iPhone 13 Pro Max, for instance. Apple Music is a disaster. This might not be a QA really but OS updates have introduced bugs and constant crashes for those products for me.

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by Kranar »

MattGaiser wrote: post #17
mensetmanusman wrote: post #8

As Apple continues to dominate, we can’t forget that the iPhone is approaching >90% utilization by the youth: https://www.howtogeek.com/778355/new-study-says-87-of-us-tee... This means we will soon enough have a situation where a corporation controls the primary medium of communication of the citizens. At this point a smart society would consider how to regulate this situation to safely prevent domination abuse, but…

Microsoft is probably 90% of computers already for everyone.

Going off Wikipedia, Windows is approximately 75%, macOS is 15%, and other OS's (ChromeOS, Linux) make up the remaining 10% [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

Re: Apple Reports First Quarter Results

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Post by zepto »

thewarrior wrote: post #32
bigtones wrote: post #25

Their huge China derived revenue is an increasing problem for Apple from a company stance perspective. They have to increasingly walk a tightrope between servicing that market, kowtowing to the Chinese government, and upholding the values of a California based US Company.

This is the case for all companies in the world eventually. China will overtake the US economy in the next 5 years.

There is no serious analysis that presents this scenario with any certainty.
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