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IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Post by hiptobecubic »

seibelj wrote: post #9

A friend of mine wanted to show off his Tesla by making it come to the front of the restaurant from where he parked it. Like he hit a button and it was to drive up. It got stuck somehow and was diagonal in the row. He was like “ehh sometimes it doesn’t work.” AI in general is very over stated. When it works it’s great, when it doesn’t (which is often) then you lose all trust in it.

I think that's the wrong conclusion from this story. The conclusion I draw is that some companies (and Tesla in particular) don't appreciate the "last mile" when trying to apply AI breakthroughs to consumer products.

"The plane lands safely 99% of the time" is an impressive demonstration and a completely worthless product, but if that's all you have then what can you do other than launch it?

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Post by m2f2 »

RotaryTelephone wrote: post #15
raverbashing wrote: post #4

"billed as a revolution in medicine" by whom? IBM's marketing department? Anything "Watson" (together with 95% of that company - optimistically) is marred too deep in bureaucracy and yes men to do anything productive and innovative.

Heh, imagine a comma "and yes, men, to do anything productive"

Better still, no comma and no space.

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Post by herval »

saxonww wrote: post #14

I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

> what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things

That sounds like a lot of professions, engineering management included :-)

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Post by dukeofdoom »

saxonww wrote: post #14

I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

Bribing politicians is far more profitable. Never thought my own prime minster would become a pfizer sales rep...but here we are.

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Post by cnlwsu »

cube00 wrote: post #26

It will be interesting to see if self driving cars and the way they've been rushed to market with the same brute force marketing will meet a similar fate.

Self driving cars are not made by IBM. I wouldn’t consider their utter failure at everything they touch to be a sign that that AI field failed.

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Post by todd8 »

politician wrote: post #28
mromanuk wrote: post #6

There should be a way to bet (short) against “projects” or products, not the whole company. When they hyped about Watson Health, I “knew” it will fail.

Prediction markets are one of those things that cryptocurrencies are good for.

Why?

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Post by kumarvvr »

History will see our current decade of AI and only see over promises and under deliveries.

I have decent amount of hope for AI, but corporate greed, hype by practitioners, a general explosion of various edTech companies hyping up the hype to drive online course sales and general excess of VC money is driving an embarrassing amount of AI failures.

I am sure that any fad now and in the future, will have a similar cycle.

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Post by Brybry »

saxonww wrote: post #14

I really expected that we'd see a change in my lifetime, that GPs in particular would be replaced by a lower-cost Watson descendant, with there being some other role for patient interaction, wet work, and data entry (perhaps just nurses). My mom worked for a GP for about 20 years, and it seemed to me that most of what made that guy a doctor was bedside manner + being able to remember a lot of things. But GPs often ma…

The American medical system is truly bizarre.

I've been to private practices where every day at lunch or near end of day there would be some drug rep with food for all the staff.

And a psychiatrist that had stacks of free samples of drugs.

Even contact lenses are marketed with free samples.

Re: IBM’s Watson Health is sold off in parts

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Post by shane_b »

boboche wrote: post #17

IBM is such a shadow of what it used to be. Hopefully newer health+genomic+ai startups or initiatives at less dinosauresques companies will make the next leap happen in our lifetime.

Currently they have one of the only if not the only enterprise permissioned blockchain project called fabric and it’s open source.

I could see them making a comeback with crypto but not the way we think about it today. Instead, inter-enterprise operations infrastructure.

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