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Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by peakaboo »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

Falkon hasn't been updated in nearly three years, and I really hope this doesn't mean it has been abandoned, because it's one of the few "just a browser"s left. It's not a "service", it doesn't call home, it's... just a browser, and it's a real shame that it is not the default for most Linux distros.

Falkon is not a top browser so of course it's not going to be the default choice for Linux or any other operating system.

Linux users today are using the same apps people use on Windows or Mac OS. We just have so much more choice and much less annoyances. For example, our operating system is silent in the background doing its job.

There is a stillness and a quiet quality to Linux that the other operating systems don't have at all.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by plzbo »

southerntofu wrote: post #24
plzbo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has no stake in telemetry that you know of

Oh, really? Past thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25074959

Good point, I had forgotten about that!

And obviously they collect data and essentially make a pinky promise they are not using it.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by barbarbar »

It is an extremely thorough walk through of a lot of browsers. But in reality it is only very very very few browser users that has the skill and patience to follow all these very good advices. So I think a better way was to go in the same direction as with GDPR where you should give consent to being tracked. And if you had not - the tracking company should be fined. Some of the fine should be rewarded to the user. This would have the effect of possessing user data could be very expansive and a thread to the company.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

fraktl wrote: post #4
Shared404 wrote: post #2

I have mixed feelings on this. While I agree with the author on many points, this feels like letting perfect be the enemy of better. Does Firefox have problems? Of course, 100%. Is it much much better than Chrome? Yes. Let's focus first on the fights that can be won. It's hard enough to get people to switch off of Chrome to Firefox, lets not try to push them to something they've mever even heard of.

I don't like Google, but Chrome is a better browser - especially if you're frontend dev. I'd love for Firefox to be better but it's way slower and its developer console is no match for Chrome's.

Ugh, yes. Firefox's dev console is such a pain.

Not only is it painfully slow compared to Chromium, but it sometimes will break on "phantom" breakpoints which cannot be seen or removed, which completely roadblock further work until the browser is restarted.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by Shared404 »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #21
csydas wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I vouched for you as I don't think you should be down voted for having an option as a developer. I don't know why others are disagreeing (I assume this is why they down vote), but I am not fond of your statement because it hits a sore spot for me with web devs and users: you like it because it's convenient for you as a web dev. Chrome is anything but better for me as a user. I've written something like this before bu…

I'm struck by your use of the phrase chrome only API . As a safari user, that's a term that comes to you naturally. As a web developer, I feel like there aren't that many chrome only APIs , but there are a lot of web standards safari doesn't support . I wonder if our two categorisations have a large intersection.

> I feel like there aren't that many chrome only APIs, but there are a lot of web standards safari doesn't support.

It may be a de jure standard, but that doesn't sound like a de facto standard.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by LeoPanthera »

peakaboo wrote: post #31
LeoPanthera wrote: post #11

Falkon hasn't been updated in nearly three years, and I really hope this doesn't mean it has been abandoned, because it's one of the few "just a browser"s left. It's not a "service", it doesn't call home, it's... just a browser, and it's a real shame that it is not the default for most Linux distros.

Falkon is not a top browser so of course it's not going to be the default choice for Linux or any other operating system. Linux users today are using the same apps people use on Windows or Mac OS. We just have so much more choice and much less annoyances. For example, our operating system is silent in the background doing its job. There is a stillness and a quiet quality to Linux that the other operating systems don'…

None of the things you mention should have any bearing on a distro choosing its default browser.

If you want "stillness", whatever the hell that is, a browser that does not come bundled with a cloud service seems like a winner.

Re: Choose your browser carefully (2021)

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Post by paulryanrogers »

fraktl wrote: post #4
Shared404 wrote: post #2

I have mixed feelings on this. While I agree with the author on many points, this feels like letting perfect be the enemy of better. Does Firefox have problems? Of course, 100%. Is it much much better than Chrome? Yes. Let's focus first on the fights that can be won. It's hard enough to get people to switch off of Chrome to Firefox, lets not try to push them to something they've mever even heard of.

I don't like Google, but Chrome is a better browser - especially if you're frontend dev. I'd love for Firefox to be better but it's way slower and its developer console is no match for Chrome's.

Funny enough I have to reach for Firefox when debugging some frontends because Chrome devtools don't always keep the payload. FF does.
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