Someone give this writer a raise :D "We could tell you we want to prevent crypto mining because we care about the planet, and that would be true. We also have a capitalism nerve that hurts when people spend our money gambling. Your credit card number is the thin plastic line between us and chaos."
Free Postgres databases for small projects
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#32It would be nice if there was some kind of "snowflake" alternative to credit card. I'm not sure what it would be, but not everyone has one.
We're working on this. I don't like the credit card barrier. It adds friction to a thing we want a lot of people to try out.
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#33requires a credit card but costs nothing, their reasoning sounds alright to me
Better than other abuse prone services, such as Hetzner or OVH, which require you to take a selfie holding your national ID card.
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#34Is there any free tier that includes a certain amount of free transfer?
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#35As a founder, there is no company the same age as mine I am more jealous of than fly.io. Looking forward to moving one of our products over to fly as soon as time allows :)
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#36I'm so glad Fly exists. Every other edge focused thing out there I'm aware of are "serverless" which these days basically means they charge per request. That's fine for a lot of use cases, but the unit economics of the per request pricing model means it's really hard to operate a predictably sustainable (i.e. profitable) business without also charging our customers on a usage basis, or enforcing limits on usage, neit…
Sounds like Fly is moving to usage-based pricing: https://twitter.com/mrkurt/status/1475310487864848391
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#37I already get postgres for free: apt-get install postgresql
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#38> We could tell you we want to prevent crypto mining because we care about the planet, and that would be true. We also have a capitalism nerve that hurts when people spend our money gambling. Your credit card number is the thin plastic line between us and chaos. Could a payments platform like Stripe build a one-click "Freemium powered by Stripe" button ala OpenID, so that these services may free-tier in a friction-fr…
> We also have a capitalism nerve
This article is about providing IaaS for free, and isn't that anti-competitive? The big cloud providers and Heroku do it, and I think it makes it a bit harder for OVH, vultr, hetzner and others who don't provide freebies like this.
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#39I'm so glad Fly exists. Every other edge focused thing out there I'm aware of are "serverless" which these days basically means they charge per request. That's fine for a lot of use cases, but the unit economics of the per request pricing model means it's really hard to operate a predictably sustainable (i.e. profitable) business without also charging our customers on a usage basis, or enforcing limits on usage, neit…
Serverless pricing model doesn't have to be transferred to your customers.
If you know them well and their usage patterns, you can predict with confidence how much each customer will cost you. With granularity to the level of a feature or even a particular action.
This allows for extremely precise and safe unit economics planning. I couldn't be happier with this benefit from serverless.
In a server-based infra you have many fixed costs: servers themselves, unused capacity, and your time to maintain it, which is certainly expensive, since it competes with attention to the product or maybe sales and customer support.
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#40I'm so glad Fly exists. Every other edge focused thing out there I'm aware of are "serverless" which these days basically means they charge per request. That's fine for a lot of use cases, but the unit economics of the per request pricing model means it's really hard to operate a predictably sustainable (i.e. profitable) business without also charging our customers on a usage basis, or enforcing limits on usage, neit…
Sounds like Fly is moving to usage-based pricing: https://twitter.com/mrkurt/status/1475310487864848391
This is true, but we aren't going to bill per request. We really can't, since we support arbitrary UDP and TCP services.
I don't really want to promise anything we haven't shipped yet. But my perfect cloud service (a) charges me when VMs are alive and (b) gives me the tools I need to create/remove/stop/start/suspend/resume VMs based on either network activity or metrics.
One flaw of Fly.io right now is that it's relatively expensive to run a side project in 10+ regions. Most apps benefit from 10+ regions, but $50/mo to try it out is prohibitive. We want to make this more accessible.