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I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by PeterisP »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #22
tluyben2 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you work with Immersed (which I do every day) you just work on your laptop while you see 5 large monitors (virtual desktops) hanging over a large planet in space (for instance). It is really nice and I have been doing it for months; I kind of forget where I am as it is very good for focusing, especially with the right sound on as well.

Just curious how it works: do you touch type and never use mouse?

Not the parent poster, but I'd assume that most developers who are working with a laptop keyboard+touchpad can do it without looking down. A mouse would be more difficult, that's for sure.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

dr_kiszonka wrote: post #22
tluyben2 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you work with Immersed (which I do every day) you just work on your laptop while you see 5 large monitors (virtual desktops) hanging over a large planet in space (for instance). It is really nice and I have been doing it for months; I kind of forget where I am as it is very good for focusing, especially with the right sound on as well.

Just curious how it works: do you touch type and never use mouse?

Not sure about mouse operation, but the touch typing is mentioned in two separate sections:

1. Yes, you have no vision of the keyboard, so learning to touch type is essential

2. Lying down position, right hand on laptop keyboard, left hand on external USB keyboard (two-handed touch typing).

They've committed wholly and solely to pursuing this solution.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by 83457 »

brightstep wrote: post #11

This sounds awful. I already feel disconnected from the world around me, my community, nature, fresh air. Why would anyone want this for themselves? To be productive? If this is the next step in productivity, we need to start looking at how to be less productive.

Actually there is a forest scene with sounds of fresh air. Now you can be more productive and more connected to nature at the same time.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by DonHopkins »

magicjosh wrote: post #21
JKCalhoun wrote: post #9

> A VR headset is just like a stereoscope from the 1800s, except the image is on screens fixed just past your nose, and you're in space. Your eyes are free to change angle as the images on the screen move, but your lenses are accommodating screens that are at a fixed distance. Never thought about that. You can throw processing at VR to dial up the frame rate, throw in more expensive displays to increase the resolutio…

My understanding is this is the key innovation that Magic Leap promised a solution for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29440213

DonHopkins 45 days ago | parent | context | favorite | on: I bought those AR cycling glasses that were on HN ...

Why not simply do what Magic Leap does, and blatantly fake the camera images and games that don't really and couldn't possibly exist?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838500

And then rip off other people's work without giving them any credit in your patents.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838443

And then sexually harass the very women you employed to solve the endemic "pink/blue problem" and fix the nepotistic sexist bro culture, and rebuff and ignore her advice, and pay her off to keep their mouth shut when she sues you for sexual harassment.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838421

And then give the entire AR industry a bad name by not delivering on your outrageously hyped promises, while burning through BILLIONS of dollars and fucking over your foolishly gullible investors.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28838737

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by idontwantthis »

abrookewood wrote: post #30
disambiguation wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what headset do you use? is eye strain / head strain a problem from extended wear? how do you deal with tracking peripheries? as mentioned in the article KBM, coffee etc.

The eye strain is what worries me the most. The Wired article dismisses it, but I'm not convinced.

If you make the screens "far" and big, it's pretty pleasant. I think the real focal length is like 2 meters with the Quest 2. That means you can't really use the indoor environments, but that doesn't matter to me, and the photospheres offer better performance.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by DonHopkins »

reayn wrote: post #26
atonalfreerider wrote: post #23

Self promote: primitive.io is an IDE designed for VR https://primitive.io

Just curious, what’s the reasoning behind naming it “primitive”? It’s not exactly reminiscent of the tech at play lol.

VR for apes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yD4KQGZUs4

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

abledon wrote: post #25
dylan604 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's that panacea type thinking that a metaverse will help solve. If you're unhappy with your meatspace version of you, create the you that makes you happy in metaverse. I've consumed too much sci-fi to actually think that'll be what actually happens.

tristran harris spoke about this on a podcast recently.... the meatspace is what holds up the metaverse. With the declining mental health of our youth nowadays, with social media etc... how will the 'metaverse' be this utopia in the 2030s,2040s?

A more concentrated version of the distillation the internet enabled: idea-driven anxieties rather than physical ones.

Which, pre-Internet, ideas versus physicalities could sound somewhat utopian, except we now know that crazy and outrage-inducing ideas dominate the discourse, and the metaverse does not and cannot offer anything to stem that tide and is likely to 'deepen the rut'.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by a-dub »

tluyben2 wrote: post #18
BaconPackets wrote: post #6

This is such a strange article. It doesn't present anything or explain how a VR workstation can actually work. Has anyone actually worked this way? I spent about an hour with a Vive headset and it was the most obnoxious experience I ever had. The lack of feedback, the requirements of a large room free of obstacle, the awful screen door effect, the poor precision from the dual wands. Overall, I was exhausted after jus…

If you work with Immersed (which I do every day) you just work on your laptop while you see 5 large monitors (virtual desktops) hanging over a large planet in space (for instance). It is really nice and I have been doing it for months; I kind of forget where I am as it is very good for focusing, especially with the right sound on as well.

i find that whenever i look anywhere in the vr visual field that isn't straight ahead, i see blurring/artefacts/etc. does it work better for younger people/people with better eyes?

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

brightstep wrote: post #11

This sounds awful. I already feel disconnected from the world around me, my community, nature, fresh air. Why would anyone want this for themselves? To be productive? If this is the next step in productivity, we need to start looking at how to be less productive.

It's not forced on you. It's for those who can make themselves better by the use of it. A tool.

This is an article on HN specifically because it's a new application of technology, another alternative working style.

Go outside, talk to a stranger (through a mask), walk in the park. These options aren't removed by the addition of this technology to the world.

Re: I Spent Hundreds of Hours Working in VR

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Post by the_only_law »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #39
brightstep wrote: post #11

This sounds awful. I already feel disconnected from the world around me, my community, nature, fresh air. Why would anyone want this for themselves? To be productive? If this is the next step in productivity, we need to start looking at how to be less productive.

It's not forced on you. It's for those who can make themselves better by the use of it. A tool. This is an article on HN specifically because it's a new application of technology, another alternative working style. Go outside, talk to a stranger (through a mask), walk in the park. These options aren't removed by the addition of this technology to the world.

> These options aren't removed by the addition of this technology to the world

The willingness of the strangers to engage may be though.

Either way, I find talking to strangers about as engaging and meaningless as talking to people online.

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