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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe… but that also meant more server load, which meant upgrading servers, more incident (reports) and as such more work. In other words; the project has become a victim of its own success. Isn't this a problem that most hobbyist projects that get big have to deal with in some capacity? To me it seems…

What company would associate itself with blocking advertising? Worse it could end up like AdBlock plus.

Probably any that:

  - has resources for supporting a project like this
  - doesn't have any connection to the ad industry and therefore don't care for backpressure from it
  - views ads as a security risk and a vector for attacks (in addition to other questionable content) on their corporate devices
But you have a point about AdBlock Plus, which sort of sold out, if memory doesn't fail me. They had a good run, but nowadays i just use uBlock Origins.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Oh come on, you can't be that cynical? The creator started the project 5 years ago because people around him without technical ability wanted a DNS ad blocker, but didn't know how to setup pi-hole. His peak MRR through Patreon was 13$, and he received one or two separate donations of ~10$ every month as well. The servers alone cost him more money than he received. Dutch source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/191950/open…

> Oh come on, you can't be that cynical?

Christel Dahlskjaer, the former head of Freenode's staff who transferred her interest in Freenode Limited to Lee, resigned in March. Dahlskjaer, with the help of Richard “RichiH” Hartmann, took over Freenode after project originator Rob Levin (lilo) died in a traffic accident in 2006 and Levin’s brother tried to turn the project into business. She was an employee of PIA at the time of the Freenode Limited transaction.

What did Christel Dahlskjaer do next?

https://www.indexoncensorship.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04...

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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>Since the endpoints even made it into XDA articles, I will make sure to keep the domain registered and under my control for the next year, to prevent adhole.org from being abused by DNS hijackers/spoofers. Nobody else then me that thinks that 1 year is too soon here? Cost of domain renewal is very little.

Actually : it's a really nice move to keep this domain up and under control for one year! Moreover, I guess that people relying on this service will soon start to see the errors, go to the website, understand the situation and move on... so 1 year is quite enough I think. It's not like it was a service people use once a year...

While it is a nice move. I think the best option is to crowdsource retaining the domain for 5-years or so. Since the cost of a domain renewal isn't that much I personally would be willing to chip in for 2-years of that cost. Because if that domain comes up for grab it will most likely be caught during the auction period by someone looking to get ad money.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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Oh come on, you can't be that cynical? The creator started the project 5 years ago because people around him without technical ability wanted a DNS ad blocker, but didn't know how to setup pi-hole. His peak MRR through Patreon was 13$, and he received one or two separate donations of ~10$ every month as well. The servers alone cost him more money than he received. Dutch source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/191950/open…

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While they never said they wouldn't hand it over to a steward, it also requires MORE work on their part to vet any strangers to ensure they are not there to abuse the system.

Handing it over to another public ad-blocking DNS resolver might be reasonable, but I think it's more honest to disable to service to let users know (in spectacularly failing way, true) that this particular service is going offline (basically, don't transfer the data to a service these customers have not signed up for).

Since it's DNS, they could also just resolve everything to their own homepage saying the service is dead, but that would still break a bunch of non-web-browser apps.

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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> donating/selling the entire project to some company or foundation It's not 100% clean service - you are arbitrarily blocking access to certain resources, so I would guess companies wouldn't want to be associated with it. > having a business around it For a service like this, it could pose a major breach in trust for its users. Maybe there's a business that doesn't involve changes in the DNS that I don't see.

but people sign up voluntarily, right? So the users are actually the ones arbitrarily blocking their own access.

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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

#36

> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

> $1 per 2tps DNS traffic

What are tps? I'm not familiar with the term and couldn't turn up much. T per second?

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

#37
post #36

> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

> $1 per 2tps DNS traffic What are tps? I'm not familiar with the term and couldn't turn up much. T per second?

transactions per second I assume

Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

#38
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> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

> $1 per 2tps DNS traffic What are tps? I'm not familiar with the term and couldn't turn up much. T per second?

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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

#39
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Oh come on, you can't be that cynical? The creator started the project 5 years ago because people around him without technical ability wanted a DNS ad blocker, but didn't know how to setup pi-hole. His peak MRR through Patreon was 13$, and he received one or two separate donations of ~10$ every month as well. The servers alone cost him more money than he received. Dutch source: https://tweakers.net/nieuws/191950/open…

> Oh come on, you can't be that cynical? Christel Dahlskjaer, the former head of Freenode's staff who transferred her interest in Freenode Limited to Lee, resigned in March. Dahlskjaer, with the help of Richard “RichiH” Hartmann, took over Freenode after project originator Rob Levin (lilo) died in a traffic accident in 2006 and Levin’s brother tried to turn the project into business. She was an employee of PIA at the…

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Re: Adhole.org is shutting down

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> ...grew out to become a worldwide multi-node adblocking DNS network with thousands of concurrent users around the globe This is hard because DNS going down means Internet is down for anyone who isn't savvy to check and change a failing DNS upstream. And when your users are global, it might mean some really angry users if you couldn't fix emergent issues for hours on end. I run a public content-blocking DNS stub res…

> it might mean some really angry users

> a free offering

You see, anything free should be treated as a privilege, not expected to last forever. Have you considered what you can do when the free providers either kick the can, or start charging fair value?

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