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Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

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Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#31

So what’s the solution? Take a clean device and then connect it to online services from China? Or are they advising against that ad well? Presumably this is about physical device searches and not the safety of internet access in general.

If you have the sort of thing they would be interested in you probably have to check your hotel for bugs as well. I wouldn't access anything I want to keep private from within China.

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#34

Good advice for anyone.

It's good advice for diplomats and such. Most people are of no interest to China; why is this warning being given to athletes? Who wants to compromise them? How?

It's not always what you take in; sometimes it's what you bring back.

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#35
post #23

Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/

Is there an up-to-date source on which countries do what kinds of scanning/copying? Is it the case that device-level encryption successfully prevents access to the contents, or is that a layer I should refuse to trust?

Depending on country laws, refusing to reveal keys or even device-level encryption itself may be illegal/cause you to be detained.

The best thing you can do is bring a wiped device through, and assume that it and its data can be seized at any time. Also treat any device as disposable - once seized, it should not be trusted.

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#37

Sounds like good advice for everyone traveling to countries that scan/copy your devices on entry. https://www.wired.com/2010/11/hacker-border-search/

Why did they do this to him??

Does that really matter?

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#38

Well, if you are lets say Politically exposed person (PEP) or holder of any kind of significant wealth, power or influence, this applies to pretty much any country definitely including US. For Android/iOS that's +-already covered with NSA and god knows what lurks in firmwares of ie network controllers in laptops. Smart move is not this kind of (even if well deserved in this case) fearmongering of specific country, bu…

And even with full access to my phone there is nothing really bad that can be done to me / my family.

Uploading CP to it doesn't classify as really bad?

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#39

Good advice for anyone.

It's good advice for diplomats and such. Most people are of no interest to China; why is this warning being given to athletes? Who wants to compromise them? How?

A successful or otherwise interestingly profiled athlete in Olympics will have recurring contacts with sports (and lifestyle) beat journalists. They in turn will have contact with their peers working their respective beats.

So with just two degrees of separation from an athlete, you have a high chance to get direct access to political reporters and their contacts. Add device-to-device no-interaction exploits and you're well set at harvesting a whole lot of material.

Re: Dutch athletes warned to keep phones and laptops out of China

#40

Good advice for anyone.

It's good advice for diplomats and such. Most people are of no interest to China; why is this warning being given to athletes? Who wants to compromise them? How?

> Who wants to compromise them? How?

Think about it. World class competition. Young person talking to friends about something off color or just young and stupid. Leak it. Mental edge and concentration gone. And that is the least harmful thing I can think of.

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