Omicron Makes Vaccine Mandates Obsolete • Hacker News Board

Re: Omicron Makes Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

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Post by mint2 » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 5:02 PM UTC

Shared404 wrote: post #8

mint2 wrote: post #6

I can’t read the article, but guessing it puts very little weight on the severity reduction vaccines grant. Or is there new data showing that’s not a thing?

I don't see anything about severity reduction in the article. The argument it has lies in >As the World Health Organization puts it, “if mandatory vaccination is considered necessary to interrupt transmission chains and prevent harm to others, there should be sufficient evidence that the vaccine is efficacious in preventing serious infection and/or transmission.” For Omicron, there is as yet no such evidence. And > T…

That’s what I was afraid of. I think it’s quite important to re-evaluate policies now that the virus has changed, and it might be the cases that vaccine mandates are not logical but at the same time of if someone tries to have that debate without bringing up one of the most important goals of the vaccine at which it’s so far been wildly successful, then I don’t think the person is trying to have an honest discussion.

Re: Omicron Makes Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

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Post by cft » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 7:10 PM UTC

rasz wrote: post #30

brimnes wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Montagnier was a promoter of the conspiracy theory that SARS-CoV-2, the causative virus, was deliberately created in, and thereafter escaped from a laboratory. Such a claim has been refuted by other virologists.

>Such a claim has been refuted by other virologists. like Peter Daszak, Shi Zhengli, and Fauci https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/10/nih-admits-funding-r...

There's a ring of people here that gang up and downvote posts, waging political wars. Then they seek out and downvote others recent comments by the same user. dang has to look into this.

Re: Omicron Makes Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

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Post by alexvoda » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 6:42 PM UTC

Shared404 wrote: post #8

mint2 wrote: post #6

I can’t read the article, but guessing it puts very little weight on the severity reduction vaccines grant. Or is there new data showing that’s not a thing?

I don't see anything about severity reduction in the article. The argument it has lies in >As the World Health Organization puts it, “if mandatory vaccination is considered necessary to interrupt transmission chains and prevent harm to others, there should be sufficient evidence that the vaccine is efficacious in preventing serious infection and/or transmission.” For Omicron, there is as yet no such evidence. And > T…

> [1] The end of the article mentions "Dr. Montagnier was a winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering the human immunodeficiency virus."

This f*** again. That is all I need to know about that article. He popped up at the start of the pandemic claiming it was a bioweapon based on HIV. Because of course he would.

He is also in support of "the memory of water" and "hexagonal water" and other homeopathic related bullshit.

A prime example of someone suffering from Nobelitis. F** this guy. Please do not give this grifter any more attention than he already has. He may have made important discoveries a long time ago, but is completely divorced from reality today.

This is one of the people on a growing list of people with whom any association leads to instant discrediting.

Re: Omicron Makes Vaccine Mandates Obsolete

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Post by alexvoda » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 6:48 PM UTC

alexvoda wrote: post #33

Shared404 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anything about severity reduction in the article. The argument it has lies in >As the World Health Organization puts it, “if mandatory vaccination is considered necessary to interrupt transmission chains and prevent harm to others, there should be sufficient evidence that the vaccine is efficacious in preventing serious infection and/or transmission.” For Omicron, there is as yet no such evidence. And > T…

> [1] The end of the article mentions "Dr. Montagnier was a winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for discovering the human immunodeficiency virus." This f*** again. That is all I need to know about that article. He popped up at the start of the pandemic claiming it was a bioweapon based on HIV. Because of course he would. He is also in support of "the memory of water" and "hexagonal water" and oth…

TFA is actually written by him.

This discredits WSJ Oppinon as a valid source of information. If as a journalism agency you do not bother to ban obvious quacks, you do not deserve to be listened to.