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Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by Tajnymag » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 10:52 AM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #4

Just recently I finally got sick of the various defects VLC developed on macOS: - Running videos off of my NAS routinely introduced audio lag even on very small videos (less than 1h long). My LAN and WAN are at 1GbE and my NAS uses ZFS with very adequate caching setup. - Crashes 2-3 times a week. Pretty rare but annoying nonetheless because I usually leave one huge video to play for the entire day. - On iOS and macOS…

1. Kodi for an open everythin-included solution

2. Plex for a proprietary solution with good integration and remote access

3. tinyMediaManager for a minimal viable product solving your needs

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by joeman1000 » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:18 AM UTC

guessmyname wrote: post #2

IINA [1] is an open-source [2], native [3] modern video player for macOS based on MPV [4]. [1] https://iina.io [2] https://github.com/iina/iina [3] Written in Swift and designed with modern macOS (10.11+) in mind [4] https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv

IINA is abandonware man

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by pdimitar » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:28 AM UTC

Tajnymag wrote: post #31

pdimitar wrote: post #4

Just recently I finally got sick of the various defects VLC developed on macOS: - Running videos off of my NAS routinely introduced audio lag even on very small videos (less than 1h long). My LAN and WAN are at 1GbE and my NAS uses ZFS with very adequate caching setup. - Crashes 2-3 times a week. Pretty rare but annoying nonetheless because I usually leave one huge video to play for the entire day. - On iOS and macOS…

1. Kodi for an open everythin-included solution 2. Plex for a proprietary solution with good integration and remote access 3. tinyMediaManager for a minimal viable product solving your needs

Thanks a lot, didn't know about `tinyMediaManager` and will check it out.

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by thrdbndndn » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 11:35 AM UTC

RGamma wrote: post #30

thrdbndndn wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use SMPlayer. Despite somewhat "ugly" UI, it's a very capable MPV skin. [1] https://www.smplayer.info/

SMPlayer is a GUI for the (quite old now) MPlayer. IIRC a long time ago mpv was based on mplayer, though probably no shared code exists anymore.

No, you can choose to use MPV or Mplayer. The default is MPV too IIRC (on Windows, as the parent comment mentioned).

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by fefe23 » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 2:09 PM UTC

This project has unfortunately been crippled by toxic devs who value their opinions more than actual technical arguments.

Report bugs and you may end up getting mocked instead of thanked.

When I reported that on my hardware I need -vo vaapi to get full hd playback without frame drops and stuttering, I was told to get better hardware. They wouldn't even entertain the thought that maybe -vo gpu (their default) needs more work. All I asked them to is to document in the man page that if you get stuttering video with -vo gpu you might want to try -vo vaapi.

This was a few years ago and apparently they did work on -vo gpu in the mean time, but they will never get rid of the stench that episode left.

Since then -vo vaapi has been deliberately crippled. It can not display subtitles and gives a deprecation warning when you try to use it.

It's too bad that mplayer has fallen into disrepair. Didn't they also suffer from toxic dev infighting? I seem to remember even a fork of ffmpeg because the other devs needed to get away from one particularly toxic dev.

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by mackatsol » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 2:43 PM UTC

pdimitar wrote: post #13

mackatsol wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Subler [ https://bitbucket.org/galad87/subler/wiki/Home ] and when it confounds me I opt for MetaTV or MetaMovie [ http://www.appfacture.com/en/ ]. I've also heard of iFlicks but never tried it [ https://iflicks.app ].

Thanks a bunch, much appreciated.

You're welcome!

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by finiteseries » Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 3:12 PM UTC

CyberRabbi wrote: post #27

finiteseries wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meaning often comes easier when sentences are finished. IINA is born to be a modern macOS application, from its framework to the user interface. It adopts the post-Yosemite design language of macOS and keeps up the pace of new technologies like Force Touch, Touch Bar, and Picture-in-Picture.

Many other media players were once born to be “modern” macOS applications. What happens when all of those things cease to be apple’s current recommendations? Will IINA cease being modern? Will there be any compelling reason to still use it?

I can’t think of a single other video player competing on macOS UX adherence over the last 20 years, source/name a couple of these many others so we can see how they died. Because it would die.

Yes, if IINA is no longer modern, it will cease being modern.

If IINA doesn’t adhere to modern macOS UX standards, but advertises that it does, there will be a compelling reason not to use it.

In general, macOS apps require constant updates every year in order to run on new versions, period. The idea that an app that competes on UX would continue implementing updates solely in the non ui realm and as a result fall out of current macOS UX practices year after year is unlikely, to say the least. It’ll just die normally.

Re: Command Line Video Player

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Post by SllX » Tue, Jan 11, 2022, 6:25 AM UTC

hnaccount_rng wrote: post #23

SllX wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s not a bad policy but it’s solid software, basically a Cocoa wrapper around MPV which as it turns out, is a fairly solid idea. Years ago when VLC was the rage, I could open any video or sound file I wanted in QuickTime Player with an array of plug-ins including Persian, Flip4Mac and a couple others I’ve long since forgotten. That served me well until it became impossible to install and use QuickTime 7 on a mode…

What makes it better than VLC?

I tried hard to think of a good answer, but I’ll be honest: I haven’t tried VLC in 15 years. My vague recollection of it was that I didn’t care for the widgets, it wasn’t as responsive as the native, preinstalled and extensible video player I already had (meaning it didn’t open and play files as immediately as I was already used to) and that it had too much window chrome for the simple task of playing back one video or sound file.

So for all I know, 15 years later VLC might actually be the best media playback player on the Macintosh and I’m just too set in my ways to realize that because I went basically straight from QuickTime 7 to QuickTime X to IINA and IINA was already such a solid upgrade that I’m not looking for another replacement.