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Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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Source? What i see, is that it's blocking illegal things.

Well, there is the Wikipedia article [1] but even there most of what it mentions could be considered hearsay, so I'll go with a couple others: - 4chan's /pol/ board straight up doesn't show up. It's easy to directly go to a board by writing "4chan" and the correspondent letters, /pol/ is censored from the results though, this is most probably political in nature since even /b/ shows up. - The "substitute" for the r/T…

Censoring their search results is not the same as censoring domain names

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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I get the issue of making .dev public, what's the issue with requiring ssl certs beside it being unnecessary in some cases?

A lot of people had local domains (only entered in their hosts file or the router) on the dev TLD. Adding that domain to the hsts preload list not only broke their current setup, but also made it hard to bring it back to live - if you don't own the domain, the only option is to set up your own CA, with all included drawbacks.

I thought a host file entry overrides dns resolution— wouldn't a .dev domain that's already pointed at localhost not be affected by this? Or am I misunderstanding?

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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The list of all their owned TLDs are at [0]. There is an icannwiki page with all the ones they’ve applied for, but not just the ones they currently own. 0: https://ntldstats.com/registry/Charleston-Road-Registry-Inc

How can a commercial company own a top level domain like ".app"? I get that they own .youtube or .google but isn't that way too generic? Like a company owning the copyright for the word "Company"?

It may seem like a pedantic point, but these top-level domains are not owned. They currently have registry operation rights which does not confer permanent ownership.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, there is the Wikipedia article [1] but even there most of what it mentions could be considered hearsay, so I'll go with a couple others: - 4chan's /pol/ board straight up doesn't show up. It's easy to directly go to a board by writing "4chan" and the correspondent letters, /pol/ is censored from the results though, this is most probably political in nature since even /b/ shows up. - The "substitute" for the r/T…

Censoring their search results is not the same as censoring domain names

Read the original comment again.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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The list of all their owned TLDs are at [0]. There is an icannwiki page with all the ones they’ve applied for, but not just the ones they currently own. 0: https://ntldstats.com/registry/Charleston-Road-Registry-Inc

How can a commercial company own a top level domain like ".app"? I get that they own .youtube or .google but isn't that way too generic? Like a company owning the copyright for the word "Company"?

These companies don't really "own" the names. They're paying $180k/yr for the privilege of ICANN delegating the responsibility of managing that gTLD to them. But this privilege isn't any kind of legal right; the company doesn't have a deed to or easement on that gTLD that would hold up in court. ICANN has just agreed, as their side of the contract, to 1. accept that company's zone-registration modifications vis-a-vis that gTLD; and 2. to not accept any other third-party entity's zone-registration modifications vis-a-vis the gTLD. But if ICANN don't like what's going on, they always have the right to just cancel the relationship (probably with a pro-rated refund for the rest of the contract period, but still) and then do what they like with the gTLD from there.

The thing I'd compare it most closely to, is an exclusive licensing of IP rights from a copyright-holder to another entity, where those rights include a sub-licensing right. While that contract pertains, the entity who licensed the rights can basically act as if they owned those rights; but the actual legal right-holder can always just revoke the licensing agreement — in the process, either "absorbing" the transitive license grants to themselves, anuling those transitive licenses, or finding a new contract-holder and transferring the "stewardship" of those transitive licenses to them.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? What i see, is that it's blocking illegal things.

Well, there is the Wikipedia article [1] but even there most of what it mentions could be considered hearsay, so I'll go with a couple others: - 4chan's /pol/ board straight up doesn't show up. It's easy to directly go to a board by writing "4chan" and the correspondent letters, /pol/ is censored from the results though, this is most probably political in nature since even /b/ shows up. - The "substitute" for the r/T…

Anecdotally the same for other sites like KiwiFarms. I may not agree with all content posted on such sites, nor spend my day there, but I certainly don't believe in censoring unpopular opinions. There were also screenshots of Google censorship posted during the 2016 election that were concerning and I verified a subset of these myself.

Regardless of one's political and social viewpoints, we should stand united against censorship.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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In a sense, dangerous. Google has a history of (and currently practices) censoring viewpoints it disagrees with. Will its censorship reach extend from omitting / deprioritizing search results to entirely canceling those using its TLDs that it deems undesirable?

Source? What i see, is that it's blocking illegal things.

Sadly you might be right, depending on where you live. In the US free speech is still supposed to be free, and Google blocks a subset of results it deems undesirable.

Re: Google owns TLDs: .web .meme and .lol

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They also have .new, enabling links like https://sheets.new .

never seen those in use

I use it all the time. It's nothing you can see "in use" since it's just a shortcut for opening a new Google Spreadsheet, like an alias in your address bar.
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