A project to bring back the northern white rhino from the edge of extinction

Post by SyzygistSix » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 4:42 PM UTC

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #18

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The Chinese medicine hippies are into is pretty much only the herbalist aspect of it, along with acupuncture. I know a lot of people involved in this and exactly zero of them agree with or do anything with animal products, especially anything rare or endangered. Additionally, many of them embrace scientific knowledge and are very interested in why, and if, remedies work rather than treating them as magic and de facto…

Well, that's comforting to some degree. Of course, your recount is as anecdotal as mine, and unfortunately my experience (or at least, the parts of it that confirmation bias pushes into the forefront of my recollection) has been that of more enthusiasm for crystals, homeopathy, chakras, auras, tarot cards, and other mystical bullshit. The people I'm thinking of like to believe they are against the use of animal produ…

Post by [deleted] » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 4:52 PM UTC

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> It's most likely true that hippies aren't the largest group of believers in magical potions from animal parts — I certainly don't have the numbers and I'm going by intuition, but there's likely also a difference between the number of people and the size of the market created by those people. Not all people have equal purchasing power. Despite the difference in purchasing power, there’s no indication that rhino horn…

> Why would you lunp Greta Thunberg in there? By age alone, she’s not to blame for climate change. And what she does explicitly advocate for is in her own words: “Listen to the scientists” You're right, she isn't to blame for climate change, but she is one of the most prominent characters in the world and when she says "personally, I am against nuclear power"[0], people listen. It causes real damage. She does indeed…

Post by OkayPhysicist » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 5:40 PM UTC

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I provided a source to at least try to substantiate my claim. What qualifies you to make this kind of assessment?

The only actual data I saw on your source dated in the past 8 years was something showing that in 2019 alone, 1/7 more of the Germany energy production moved to renewables (doubling its share from 1/7 to 2/7). That sounds good to me! They also said we'll have to invest hundreds of billions over a decade in rebuilding the electrical grid. Given that the grid keeps setting California on fire, that seems like an investm…

Post by HWR_14 » Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 7:15 PM UTC

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The only actual data I saw on your source dated in the past 8 years was something showing that in 2019 alone, 1/7 more of the Germany energy production moved to renewables (doubling its share from 1/7 to 2/7). That sounds good to me! They also said we'll have to invest hundreds of billions over a decade in rebuilding the electrical grid. Given that the grid keeps setting California on fire, that seems like an investm…

If you only found one data point from the past 8 years in that source, then I'm sorry but you're just going to have to read a little harder. If that's a struggle, come back after you've watched Pandora's Promise with a truly open mind. The source above addresses why renewables aren't a complete solution. Fossil fuel companies also know that renewables aren't a complete solution, which is exactly why fossil fuel compa…