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The state of external retina displays

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Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by Groxx »

x0x0 wrote: post #8
rdl wrote: post #6

Every time I buy the LG 5K I feel a little sad (it's overpriced for what it is, outdated, and limited with non-Macs), but every time I use it, I'm happy with the purchase. Biggest downside (aside from the price) is extending the Apple lock-in.

I've also had a great experience w/ this monitor. As mentioned elsewhere, it and my mac are sensitive to the cable, so it's worth trying a couple if they give problems. (More apple idiocy: what if we put the same connector everywhere, but made devices super sensitive to some qualities of the cables, connectors, or who knows what -- there's definitely no way this will be super confusing for users!)

This is also somewhat usb-c in a nutshell. Not all ports or cables are made equally, and the spec very much allows that.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by jstx1 »

Not knowing too much about monitors and trying to search for "I want a 24in monitor that looks somewhat similar to my macbook" has been kind of challenging. Especially when you're shopping online. So many variables to tweak, and I have no idea which matter and which don't. I just want something that looks good.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

distantsounds wrote: post #14

Dell P2415Q. https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/cty/dell-24-ultra-hd-4k... you can still find it in stock on Amazon despite Dell not carrying it anymore. I have one, it's a glorious IPS panel for photo editing.

Can confirm that I've had more than a decade of very satisfying experience of using Dell displays. They have a very predictable menu and just work. Soundbar is a very good solution if you don't want speakers messing your desktop.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by R0b0t1 »

never_a-pickle wrote: post #13

The computer monitor market is at the mercy of gamers who want 1080p-1440p if it means getting 600fps in a game rather than 150fps at higher resolutions. It's why since 2015 there has been an arms race of refresh rates rather than of resolution. We had 4-5k panels at retina in 2015, market conditions could have had us with much higher quality panels if the entire thing wasn't catered to young, cash-strapped gamers wh…

The driver is really what manufacturers want to sell. We saw this with those awful 13xx by 768 screens no one wanted. They made loads of them and then had to sell them.

What I suspect is really going on is it's easier to overclock screens than it is to increase yield on high resolutions.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by saxonww »

eckmLJE wrote: post #27
never_a-pickle wrote: post #13

The computer monitor market is at the mercy of gamers who want 1080p-1440p if it means getting 600fps in a game rather than 150fps at higher resolutions. It's why since 2015 there has been an arms race of refresh rates rather than of resolution. We had 4-5k panels at retina in 2015, market conditions could have had us with much higher quality panels if the entire thing wasn't catered to young, cash-strapped gamers wh…

Although you make an ok point, you're greatly exaggerating FPS. I'm on a beautiful 1440p 144hz LG and I really only need 150fps. This still often requires less-than-ultra video settings even with a 3080 ti. There is a very small niche of competitive gamers who want 240hz at 1080p and the fps that justifies it.

Isn't this the entire esports community though?

edit: This was intended to be a serious question. I thought the esports folks were mostly interested with minimizing input latency and maximizing framerate, to the exclusion of most other concerns. ESPN covers esports tournaments now, sometimes on the front page of espn.com, so I thought it was more popular than perhaps it is.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by dev_tty01 »

wikibob wrote: post #10

The only currently acceptable external display is the LG 27-inch 5K. Sadly the firmware is flaky, the webcam sucks, it has huge bezels, and is very thick. Rumor is apple might have a new consumer priced external display next year. Let’s hope it’s true.

The 5K monitor model number and presumably the actual monitor has been updated a couple of times. Any chance the most recently updated design actually has corrected those issues?

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by sroussey »

rdl wrote: post #6

Every time I buy the LG 5K I feel a little sad (it's overpriced for what it is, outdated, and limited with non-Macs), but every time I use it, I'm happy with the purchase. Biggest downside (aside from the price) is extending the Apple lock-in.

I have two. One has a bad burnin problem. It takes 30min to set and the rest of the day I see that original image. The other has a weird color wave.

I used to buy an iMac 27 so I could have a great first screen. I’d like to go back or have an apple monitor again.

Re: The state of external retina displays

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Post by abraxas »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #21

I disappointed that this was about monitors and not something that I could clip on my glasses that would project onto my retinas.

Thank Apple for fucking up the term Retina Display. It used to mean something very specific until the marketing department at Apple overheard it. Same happened earlier to "real time".
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