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The Sound of Silence: A Noise Map of the U.S.

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Weird that the National Park Service omits Alaska and Hawaii from their maps, especially given that Alaska has national parks that are larger than some entire states. Ah, well.

The DoT has a zoom-able noise pollution map that includes Alaska and Hawaii.

They used to have a better map but it looks like it was replaced with this one:

https://maps.dot.gov/BTS/NationalTransportationNoiseMap/

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It might be more interesting to subtract one data set from the other, showing how much of the noise is human-induced? Perhaps there are some outliers.

Absent humans, this still applies: > The trend is higher sound levels in wetter areas with more vegetation. This is due to the sounds of wind blowing through vegetation, flowing water, and more animals (especially birds and frogs) vocalizing in more fertile locations.

I find those sorts of natural sounds to be way less annoying and offensive than machine-originated sounds, even at equal decibel levels. Perhaps it’s because of a learned/cultural associations, but I’d bet there’s something inherently annoying to most manmade sounds, probably due to the periodic nature of motors, fans, etc. I’d be interested in the above suggested diff map showing (approximately) machine-originated sound levels.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cars, trucks and motorcycles with booming exhaust pipes are insufferable. I despise hearing them revving by. I feel like I'm crazy for how much it bothers me. But then I read a story about a man shooting a driver who was just revving up and down his street, so I'm not alone. I spent a week in Helsinki, and was blown away by how quiet it was despite being far more dense than my city.

"Loud pipes save lives" ugh

Yeah, especially at 11:30 at night as they loudly rev their bikes with a grin at. every. damned. stop. sign.

Really, do they have to? They can't just give it a little throttle to get it moving, they have to open it all the way unsettling the whole neighborhood with the exhaust noise when it's otherwise quiet and there are few cars?

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It pains me that noise pollution isn't taken as seriously as other forms of environmental damage when it's the one that most directly impacts (urban) people's quality of life.

It baffles me as well. It’s exceedingly obvious (to me) how significant an effect it has on wellbeing, yet it seems virtually ignored, particularly in the US. I’ve found that it’s somewhat better in the UK (London), but there’s still a ways to go.

It’s a classic example of a commons. It’s something that benefits everyone, yet is SO easy to wreck for everyone for miles in every direction. There’s a classic article “Silence is a Commons” that has been posted here before; it’s not so much focused on health/wellbeing but makes a similar point: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28431541

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correction. Internal combustion engines are loud.

It's been a long time since I watched that video, but I believe he makes the point that actually even electric cars are quite loud at speed. The noise from the tires is substantial.

Also different from background noise levels but car horns and alarms are a hugely disruptive source of noise.

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post #7

It pains me that noise pollution isn't taken as seriously as other forms of environmental damage when it's the one that most directly impacts (urban) people's quality of life.

The cars, trucks and motorcycles with booming exhaust pipes are insufferable. I despise hearing them revving by. I feel like I'm crazy for how much it bothers me. But then I read a story about a man shooting a driver who was just revving up and down his street, so I'm not alone. I spent a week in Helsinki, and was blown away by how quiet it was despite being far more dense than my city.

I had to move because of the motorcycles. I literally couldn’t take it anymore. Too many nights being woken up at 2am. Those people don’t care about anyone but themselves.

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post #7

It pains me that noise pollution isn't taken as seriously as other forms of environmental damage when it's the one that most directly impacts (urban) people's quality of life.

The average person just doesn't seem to care. I've observed first hand people feeling unbelievably entitled to force their noise onto others. This includes blasting music on portable speakers while in remote wilderness areas, stomping around in boots while living in a multi-floor apartment, and modified exhaust and emission systems, just to name a few. It's reflective of a pretty sad state of affairs in our culture,…

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It pains me that noise pollution isn't taken as seriously as other forms of environmental damage when it's the one that most directly impacts (urban) people's quality of life.

It drives me crazy. I really don't know how other people deal with it. Like my neighbors are so unbelievably loud, its starting to get to me. (I think some cultures identify with being loud?) Or do people just accept a poorer quality of life.

Its pretty much the only reason why I think dense living is a bad idea. People are are to inconsiderate of each other to make it work I think and construction quality is too low. I hate being subjected to other people's noise. I'm a light slight sleeper so it wakes me up or it makes it hard to concentrate or even just relax. I don't want to live on some strangers schedule.

I can go on forever with a huge rant about how terrible noise is. I hate dealing with it. Talking to every person who is just way to loud is like whack a mole with noise.

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post #39
post #7

It pains me that noise pollution isn't taken as seriously as other forms of environmental damage when it's the one that most directly impacts (urban) people's quality of life.

It drives me crazy. I really don't know how other people deal with it. Like my neighbors are so unbelievably loud, its starting to get to me. (I think some cultures identify with being loud?) Or do people just accept a poorer quality of life. Its pretty much the only reason why I think dense living is a bad idea. People are are to inconsiderate of each other to make it work I think and construction quality is too low…

75% of the reason I live in the country is because of the reasons you listed, as is 100% of the reason I'd never live anyplace other than a single family home.
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