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UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

Because this is in Canada, where they aren't bound by US Supreme Court decisions? Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case.

Is a gay black trans-woman part of a protected class?

Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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The pacific northwest, on the Canadian side, has its own divergent terms of inclusivity. Mostly in reference to existing forms of inclusivity that were never controversial in some of the pre-colonial civilizations that already existed there. But require labels and grouping with other edge cases for any meaningful representation and protection in the post-colonial society. That being said, it means the rest of us dont…

Explain like I'm 5?

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Much like the old kind of racism needed also some whites to stand up and say "we do not want to benefit from this poisonous system, it is repulsive and we reject it", this new kind of racism will only end when at least some people who are intended to benefit from it start organizing and saying aloud "not in my name, I do not want to be treated like this". Individuals do that already (like Sowell or Ayaan Hirsi Ali),…

One must point out it's also likely to foment the classic flavor of racism. If you're there and succeeding as a cisgender white man, you might be inclined to think you're superior to the people eligible for various kinds of assistance, whether any individual actually needed/used it or not. You could carry that sense of superiority or that feeling of resentment the rest of your life.

Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

#36
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How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

Edit: APPARENTLY NOT, SEE COMMENTS BELOW, VIDEO IS MISLEADINGLY CUT!

Canadian government doesn't care about the legality of breaking human rights.

Here is Trudeau saying:

> "Regardless of the fact that we are attacking your fundamental rights or limiting your fundamental rights the charter says that is wrong, we’re still gonna go ahead and do it."

https://twitter.com/apexworldnews/status/1473254056550449160

Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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Just to be clear, they seem to be only excluding able-bodied cisgender white men. Which is not to say it's a great policy, but in the interests of precision: > In accordance with UBC’s CRC Equity, Diversity, & Inclusion Action Plan, and pursuant to Section 42 of the BC Human Rights code, the selection will be restricted to members of the following designated groups: persons with disabilities, Indigenous Peoples, wome…

Section 42:

Special programs 42 (1)It is not discrimination or a contravention of this Code to plan, advertise, adopt or implement an employment equity program that

(a)has as its objective the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups who are disadvantaged because of race, colour, ancestry, place of origin, physical or mental disability, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, and

(b)achieves or is reasonably likely to achieve that objective.

(2)[Repealed 2002-62-23.]

(3)On application by any person, with or without notice to any other person, the commissioner may approve any program or activity that has as its objective the amelioration of conditions of disadvantaged individuals or groups.

(4)Any program or activity approved under subsection (3) is not in contravention of this Code.

Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pacific northwest, on the Canadian side, has its own divergent terms of inclusivity. Mostly in reference to existing forms of inclusivity that were never controversial in some of the pre-colonial civilizations that already existed there. But require labels and grouping with other edge cases for any meaningful representation and protection in the post-colonial society. That being said, it means the rest of us dont…

Explain like I'm 5?

It means you can ignore it unless you live in Vancouver. It isn’t related to the broader gay rights community, but masquerades as being something to be aware of, but is only relevant to the long existing cultures in that area.

Re: UBC bans non-minority candidates from applying for tenure-track quantum position

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post #6

How is this not discrimination of protected classes, and therefore illegal?

Because this is in Canada, where they aren't bound by US Supreme Court decisions? Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case.

> Also I don't think straight white cis-male is a protected class in any case.

A disabled "straight white cis-male" isn't a protected class in USA? Stop being racist.

We live in crazy times where some form of casual racism is acceptable, because the people who are racist claim they are "anti-racists". You can't be anti-racist if you say racist things, no matter what race is the target.

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